If there is any operational integration with non-permitted aircraft types among the certificate holders it would violate our scope. I don't know the answer to your question based on the separate certificates that RAH may soon hold.

List yourself 1st class non-rev. S3 is the standard, S2 has higher priority, only 6 per flight year (save it for vacation/tough commute).

If you go to training, and require company biz travel, list yourself in coach, and the system will not allow you to list if the flight is oversold.

Hope it helped.

After analyzing the sentence structure and composition, my guess is that it's Buzz.

Well that is probably the most cogent post about this that I have seen in a while. The best way to find out about how the MEC feels about a subject is by talking to your reps. I know this is said a lot but it really is. It helps a lot if you call or write in a tone similar to what you used above and not start off with "You ignorant slut".

Second, a lot of the angst about the scope issue has been self generated by the same people who are worried. The level of rumor is at ultra high PRF and despite being wrong time and again, the same people post the same type of drivel and it hits the internet echo chamber. One reason I waded into this quagmire was to just stamp out this now accepted "fact" that the MEC Chair thinks that low pay at regionals is a good thing. How someone can believe such a ridiculous statement is beyond me. (by the way this is not implying anything about you). At some point the madness has to stop.

Third, I am not doing MEC work now, but as far as I know, there is nothing on the horizon about scope, other than internet rumor. The last issue that came up was the 76 seat grievance settlement, and given the furlough protections that we got from that, it looks better and better every day. The company would have had a valid argument to support their position and I believe there was real risk of losing the whole thing and getting nothing from it. The settlement allowed us to obtain something of real value in return. The costs of furloughing even one pilot have risen substantially for the company.

Otherwise, Republic is an independent company and they can do what they want. I don't know if Delta's agreement with them prohibits this type of competition but I would not be surprised if it did. Somehow, the actions of an independent company equate to scope concessions by DALPA, how I do not know.

There have a number of other false alarms that ping back and forth in the echo chamber, none of which involved any changes to Delta scope protections, so the angst was self generated, it is nearly impossible for the MEC to respond to internet rumors.

The only thing for real that happened was one of the DCI carriers (I think Shuttle America??) was going to mod their jets to break compliance with our scope clause. Delta management was informed and they told the carrier that they could not make that mod. End result, we enforced the contract.

Finally, there is a lot of change in the air and everyone, me included, is anxious to know the results of that change. That change only heightens the generation and response to these internet rumors. Getting around that is difficult. The MEC wants to communicated to pilots the direction of the MEC, but you don't want to advertise any current or future bargaining positions to management. Maybe the line has fallen on too little communication rather than too much. That is an acceptable criticism. I repeat my advice to all here that are concerned, call your rep, have a gentlemanly exchange of ideas, let him know your feelings, ask him if there is anything on the horizon.

Thanks for the well reasoned response, I understand your position much better now. If I happen to talk to old buddies actively doing work, I will pass it along.

Thank you!

And I'd guess you're a "p*$$ed off deadzoner"...:)

As someone said on another board, anger isn't a strategy!:p

Maybe, but whoever posted those was probably within the confines of a forum for only those pilots....that's fair play.

OTOH, airing one's dislike and/or dirty laundry to another group's pilots in an effort to "schmooze" is rather distasteful, though. But in the end, it probably only hurt his own reputation with the group he was trying to schmooze with.

Nu

Thanks Alfa, no one has ever called me cogent. Tangent yes, cogent no.
I think that is all most of us are asking. Don't treat us like mushrooms or a six year old with a cough. I know what you mean by the same people complaining about the union doing nothing right. This issue is though is more than that. It directly affects our employment and it falls on the junior far more than the senior.

I feel we are nearing the vortex of the Charybdis and the captain of the boat is telling us not to worry, he's got it handled. A few words on the PA would do wonders for the unruly riders in the back.

So you point is...that group does not matter?

Those who are threatened/worried about scope relaxation is everyone and anyone who will fly the MDs, DCs, 73s and 320s. This group that you so quickly dispatched is no small group.

Let me guess, you are in something bigger?

I second that...