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80ktsClamp 10-15-2013 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1502282)
Yes, but Delta didn't have an attractive contract until recently.

Go on? Your point was that the top notch applicants have all gone to FDX/UPS/SWA. They haven't been hiring, either. And still aren't....

Purple Drank 10-15-2013 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 1501938)
One of them was the son of the guy in charge of hiring, he got the job.

No surprise. He's a top-notch guy.

Mesabah 10-15-2013 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1502283)
Go on? Your point was that the top notch applicants have all gone to FDX/UPS/SWA. They haven't been hiring, either. And still aren't....

Huh? The most junior captains at those airlines except UPS, are in the 2003-2005 range while Delta is the late 90's. They also all make Delta widebody captain pay. There has been a lot more hiring in the last decade at those carriers than Delta. The bankruptcy contracts also sunk Delta and NWA way below those other carriers, until recently.

I bet you in a year Delta will be lowering its minimums.

80ktsClamp 10-15-2013 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1502323)
Huh? The most junior captains at those airlines except UPS, are in the 2003-2005 range while Delta is the late 90's. They also all make Delta widebody captain pay. There has been a lot more hiring in the last decade at those carriers than Delta. The bankruptcy contracts also sunk Delta and NWA way below those other carriers, until recently.

I bet you in a year Delta will be lowering its minimums.

And now they aren't hiring and DL/UA/US/AA is.

MrMustache 10-15-2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1502328)
And now they aren't hiring and DL/UA/US/AA is.

Almost like it's a little cyclical! :D

Mesabah 10-15-2013 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1502328)
And now they aren't hiring and DL/UA/US/AA is.

Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.

MrMustache 10-15-2013 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1502334)
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.

Uhhhh What? Are you talking only the Captain portion?

80ktsClamp 10-15-2013 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1502330)
Almost like it's a little cyclical! :D

Yep. They went on pause back in 08, nothing has happened much with anyone since then, now they are still on pause while DL/UA/AA/US are cranking things back up. There's a good 5 year backlog of applicants.

80ktsClamp 10-15-2013 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1502334)
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.

That's not surprising. Called it! And so the SSP logjam begins...

buzzpat 10-15-2013 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1502334)
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.

That must mean most of you guys aren't top notch. If you think DAL, who has 12,000 applications for 300 slots, is already out of highly qualified folks, you're nuts.


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