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GogglesPisano 06-15-2015 05:05 PM
Instructordude is in fact a troll from FI. Wasn't witty there, isn't witty here.

sailingfun 06-15-2015 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1906019)
Are we the vocal minority? Is this thing going to pass? I personally am a permanent no voter that will never fill out another survey, but I really did believe at a minimum, this TA would raise our wages more than C2012 did. There are concessions in there related to sick leave and the JV that even I didn't see coming. I also didn't see the profit sharing hit being as big as it was. I figured another 2 percent like C2012. Is it really as bad as it seems? Is there any chance of this being the first TA ever voted down at Delta?
Based on the pilots I have talked with and my personal feelings on the TA I don't think it will ratify. If the company changed the 1 Jan raise to 8% and altered the LCA trip issue I think it would easily ratify. As currently structured it will fail to ratify. For 50 million more a year the company could have had the deal signed and delivered. In this case I think they have gambled a little to much.

Purple Drank 06-15-2015 05:22 PM
The TA sick leave grab was also a massive overreach-around.

MtEverest 06-15-2015 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1906153)
Based on the pilots I have talked with and my personal feelings on the TA I don't think it will ratify. If the company changed the 1 Jan raise to 8% and altered the LCA trip issue I think it would easily ratify. As currently structured it will fail to ratify. For 50 million more a year the company could have had the deal signed and delivered. In this case I think they have gambled a little to much.
I agree with this but believe a modification to the JV agreement and allowing pilots the dignity of keeping their medical records private would also be needed.

Carl Spackler 06-15-2015 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1906153)
Based on the pilots I have talked with and my personal feelings on the TA I don't think it will ratify. If the company changed the 1 Jan raise to 8% and altered the LCA trip issue I think it would easily ratify. As currently structured it will fail to ratify. For 50 million more a year the company could have had the deal signed and delivered. In this case I think they have gambled a little to much.
I'll take your prediction and raise you one. I think the MEC admin internal polling is reflecting what you just said. As such, I think we'll have another hastily called special MEC meeting to show a revised TA before this one gets voted on. This is a purely opinion based prediction.

Carl

80ktsClamp 06-15-2015 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1906151)
Instructordude is in fact a troll from FI. Wasn't witty there, isn't witty here.
Whoa... you're right. That is a complete mess en route to us.

Standby for for tonight's flavor of banhammer.

http://i44.tinypic.com/dymz6e.gif


It's crazy how much flightinfo has become a ghost town due to types like that.

MtEverest 06-15-2015 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1906166)
Whoa... you're right. That is a complete mess en route to us.

Standby for for tonight's flavor of banhammer.

http://i44.tinypic.com/dymz6e.gif


It's crazy how much flightinfo has become a ghost town due to types like that.
Haha, that gif made me laugh. Thanks for keeping the airwaves clear for more intelligent conversation.

forgot to bid 06-15-2015 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by dtfl (Post 1906100)
This has to be flame bait. 6 posts....
As sharpesttool goes out... new one comes in.

forgot to bid 06-15-2015 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1906153)
Based on the pilots I have talked with and my personal feelings on the TA I don't think it will ratify. If the company changed the 1 Jan raise to 8% and altered the LCA trip issue I think it would easily ratify. As currently structured it will fail to ratify. For 50 million more a year the company could have had the deal signed and delivered. In this case I think they have gambled a little to much.
Idk because I haven't been flying and even if I had been it's not any better an indicator then this website. That said. When you see some of the people lining up against this thing that voted yes in 2012 it makes you think this will not pass. But, we'll see.

MtEverest 06-15-2015 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1906178)
Idk because I haven't been flying and even if I had been it's not any better an indicator then this website. That said. When you see some of the people lining up against this thing that voted yes in 2012 it makes you think this will not pass. But, we'll see.
The important thing is to not let our guard down. Each and every one of us needs to vote no and carry copies of this succinct, well written letter above (along with part II when it comes out). Pass it out. Have a friendly conversation about what's really in this TA.


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