Delta TA med verification
06-16-2015 | 05:41 AM
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Hey, they are *your* side....says so right on their website. It MUST be true.
06-16-2015 | 06:13 AM
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This is who the FAs have to go through for absences over XYZ or OJI. I know of one particular FA who came down with the flu on a trip and spent the extra night in a hotel. Sedgwick had her running through all kinds of hoops because an illness abroad is treated as an OJI. Numerous statements, coordination between a supervisor and an overall PIA experience. Sedgwick is NOTHING we want a part of.
06-17-2015 | 07:53 AM
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Then it should be easy for DALPA to get that in writing.
Just something simple that says "Delta Air Lines will never use a third party sick leave adminstrator."
Until then, "we don't think they'll do that" is totally inadequate--it's nothing more than the professor's opinion.
Just something simple that says "Delta Air Lines will never use a third party sick leave adminstrator."
Until then, "we don't think they'll do that" is totally inadequate--it's nothing more than the professor's opinion.
06-17-2015 | 08:07 AM
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Professor, in response to my post below, you just told me on the Delta TA thread that you can't confirm that. So I think your statement here needs to be adjusted to say "I don't know the answer to that", or something to that effect.
Not exactly how it's written in the TA.
1) The medical release window could be anytime the DHS is unable to make a determination based on the information you've provided. Even if you haven't met the threshold. That's subjective, and totally up to them.
2) The release can then be expanded, again totally subjective and solely at the DHS discretion, to include an exam by a company picked doctor, and the Vice President of Flight Operations. No doctor will take the time to redact impertinent health information from the results of the written release. That includes social history, medications, health issues, and as soon as the FAA releases the new regs, your mental health records. Good luck getting any of that redacted.
Again, "or his designee" could be anyone. It most certainly could be a third party. I'm sorry, but "The company told us" is not a contractual obligation.
Most major corporations, S&P500 we're talking, use third party verification. Time Warner, AT&T, and so on. We are already using it for a large portion of our own employees. What in this TA prevents that from happening? The answer: Nothing. We agree to allow an unspecified 'designee' to evaluate our health and our sick leave usage.
Not exactly how it's written in the TA.
1) The medical release window could be anytime the DHS is unable to make a determination based on the information you've provided. Even if you haven't met the threshold. That's subjective, and totally up to them.
2) The release can then be expanded, again totally subjective and solely at the DHS discretion, to include an exam by a company picked doctor, and the Vice President of Flight Operations. No doctor will take the time to redact impertinent health information from the results of the written release. That includes social history, medications, health issues, and as soon as the FAA releases the new regs, your mental health records. Good luck getting any of that redacted.
Again, "or his designee" could be anyone. It most certainly could be a third party. I'm sorry, but "The company told us" is not a contractual obligation.
Most major corporations, S&P500 we're talking, use third party verification. Time Warner, AT&T, and so on. We are already using it for a large portion of our own employees. What in this TA prevents that from happening? The answer: Nothing. We agree to allow an unspecified 'designee' to evaluate our health and our sick leave usage.
06-17-2015 | 08:15 AM
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06-17-2015 | 08:16 AM
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Fair enough.
There is no plan. There is no understanding that leads us to believe that this will be anyone other than DHS.
Both the union and company understand it to be an internal company transaction.
Thanks flyallnite. You are correct.
There is no plan. There is no understanding that leads us to believe that this will be anyone other than DHS.
Both the union and company understand it to be an internal company transaction.
Thanks flyallnite. You are correct.
06-17-2015 | 08:17 AM
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Look. You guys can conspiracy away all you want.
You don't like the answer I'm giving you.
Fine.
That is your prerogative. Completely.
Please ask contract admin and have everyone ask at roadshows as well.
Thanks.
06-17-2015 | 08:26 AM
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Ill ask at a roadshow and I really do want to believe you......
BUT, where is Delta getting the manpower for the new work that DHS will be doing (I've asked but no one has answered yet). It's farmer logic (vs black helicopters) that it's a vendor.
That's my only question, asked on the DALPA website and not answered there either.
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