Are you seriously saying we need to grow into the 1.81 ratio? Hate to tell you, we'll be at 1.81 sooner rather than later. We're already at 1.6. Min is 1.35. The number in between is a lot of planes. DCI drops some more unstaffed, unloved and unreliable 50 seaters and we're there.

Okay I get it. 100% of the time we will lose at the NMB no matter what's going on and what we're there for. We will always always lose.

What I don't get is why the company doesn't want to just go to the NMB, sounds like they'd get a better deal than they'd get from any TA.

Ding ding ding! We all know, and I've said this before, management always drives the pace of negotiations. When they drag it out, they don't want a new contract and would rather have it go to mediation. When they rush it, they NEED something. In our case they need 3 things, PS, staffing efficiencies, and Scope.

Good. Because everything we had was garbage. Let's start over.

And, there is speculation that Mr. Anderson sent out that email because he got a look behind the curtain by the union at how the voting is going. Let's just say it ain't a bunch of yes votes. When is the last time you saw a CEO make a vote recommendation to a pilot group? This is destined to fail, and since it is so cost/staffing positive to the Co they sent in the big gun to try to sway fence sitters. This TA is worth a truck load to them.

If the status quo is going to save them money, why are they so afraid of it staying in place?'

Wouldn't they be happy to keep it, if it truly costs less?

Is there something else in this POS that's more important to them than money? Or has the sinkr8 screen name not been authorized to discuss that angle?

The UNION is saying $1.1 billion dollars in VALUE! Unless you are "green", the word VALUE is a way to sell something. Look at infomercials (Free shipping a value of $100). They always place an inflated value on something that is worth nothing.

Me thinks, the $1.1 Billion dollar Value figure is inflated to enhance the sales agenda. Value means the actual cost or dollar amount of a certain good that is most likely inflated by at least 30-50%.


TEN

Ten nailed it.

I bought two sham-wows for 40 bucks. But they were "valued" at $85. Even after the $20 processing fee...What a screaming bargain.

I even got a sham-wow pen and bag tag, too.

What is it, about the 5th time you have said that?

I guess they'll just have to throttle back on the plan.

I wish we had more costing information because the way i see it, Credit Suisse was wrong when they said this TA saves $500 million. Im betting is saves WAY MORE than that. That's just straight pay and based on current PS. Doesnt factor in the continually increasing PS margins we would keep on the current pwa, doesn't factor in significant reductions in greenslips due to fo bidding, more fos on reserve and on peak days, more pilots flying sick, higher tlv and other staffing efficiencies etc.

We... Got... Played...

Not unlike Tsquare and his pay banding scheme.