3 green

In the latest email Richard Anderson is pushing the TA and telling everyone you better vote yes or else...This TA is such a good deal for mgmt. they are even worried it wont pass and Richard feels like he has to force it on us now. The email actually angers me, and if I was still on the fence I would vote NO.

I’ve been asked by a lot of employees for my thoughts on this agreement and what the opportunities are for Delta and our employees. Candidly, there's a lot of information out there – some true, some false and some speculative. In truth, the agreement is an opportunity to bolster the momentum we’ve built in three critical areas: Maintaining our history and culture of working and winning together; fortifying Delta’s highly successful fleet strategy; and providing the best pilot base pay, the best profit sharing and the best overall work rules amongst our global competitors. Failure to ratify the agreement will lead to a very different and longer path that will not result in a better deal. Uncertainty will prevail, and that will not be good for anybody. So, I ask all Delta pilots to continue their leadership in our company by ensuring you have the necessary information to cast a well-informed vote by the July 10th deadline. Our future is bright and I look forward to hearing that our pilots have seized the opportunities presented by this agreement.

forgot to bid

I wonder if they already know it's failed?

ghilis101

They say no matter how hard you try, your true colors eventually show. Im not surprised, a lot of us already knew RA never cared for us. But i hope this at least opens other people's eyes who viewed him as someone who actually valued his employees. This is a good thing for us. It allows us to distinguish our roles from the roles of management. They are not our friends, and we dont need to be patronized.

RonRicco

I think this letter contradicts the theme Mike Hanson has been pushing on the FB sight. He speaks of the company having "buyers remorse" and that we should even "ask our chief pilots" (like what would you expect them to say? Uhh no, we left money on the table..)

scambo1

Ghillis,
I think most line pilots get this. So, we live employee lives. The people that have been co opted are the union/ MEC.

I am convinced that, being in the roles they are in, they have come to believe or do believe they are partners with management...they have been co opted. They believe their personal relationships with management is because of them - and not because of the position or job in the union they hold.

It's a very slippery slope to believe your own propaganda. When they return to the line, they will just be employees living employee lives, not the pilot royalty they think they are today.

The only cure for this false sense of management partnership and pilot royalty is to return them to the line as quickly as possible.

We are labor. Our collectivization is to extract the maximum pay and benefits for our services. I am convinced that did not happen. I am also convinced that a main reason it didn't happen is because our pilot royalty believes they are something they are not...royalty.

Reread the DN letter. He starts off with a misquote used out of context then explains how his weakness is strength. Fear, uncertainty, doubt, throws his hands in the air and says we will get them next time.

I'm not co opted. He is.

3 green

It is pretty obvious why Richard wants this TA to pass so badly. He is getting everything he wants..Profit sharing concessions(which will be a huge reduction if the forecasted company profits are correct), Joint venture concessions, sick leave concessions, LCA bidding concessions, scope concessions, new hire 24 month aircraft freeze concession, etc....All he had to do is throw some money at us with pay rate increase(which wont be much if profit sharing is reduced as forecasted to offset payraise)...No wonder he sent an email out trying to scare everyone.

ghilis101

Scambo youre spot on. Our union officials' bizarre behavior from MEC chair down to the P2P members really shows they got too close to management. Whether it's to secure their positions because they dont like line flying, who knows. And i dont care if someone wants to be an ALPA lifer as long as they serve the position well. In this case we agree they did not.

Power is a beautiful thing, but it is also a dangerous thing. When you give someone power, you never know what theyre going to do with it til they have it. Think of the nice FO that turns into a dictator CA that earns him or herself a spot on the no-fly list, for example. And look at our MEC now, given such great power, and mishandled it to the point of trying to force a weak TA down our throats while suppressing the opposition, including dissenting LEC reps that voted no. I do not know how easy or quick it will be to get a recal but if this TA gets voted down it will be a precedent setting victory for delta pilots, and we'll need new direction.

Why dont we get some APC folks to run for rep positions in atl, slc, and lax?

UGBSM

"Failure to ratify the agreement will lead to a very different and longer path that will not result in a better deal."

Just saying that doesn't make it true. You don't know what will happen with the NMB, Richard. Your mindset that you will always get what you want just by making an assertion is troubling.

I do agree that not having an agreement is not going to be good for anybody. I recommend you be more generous with your employees.

Doug Madsen

"some money..."?

$1.1 billion dollars - net, of the profit sharing reduction, and all the concessions you allude to.

scambo1

Horse kaka.

Show your math.

I'll tell you what, remove all the concessions, lower the payraise to $1b and re vote it. Saves the company $100M. Deal?