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Old 07-19-2015 | 06:47 AM
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The junta's screaming ineptitude, flat-footed responses, and tone-deaf communications indicate a failure on almost every level: Institutional, infrastructural, and individual.

One aspect of DALPA's utter inability to connect with its constituents is its ignorance of generational differences. Without painting with too broad of a brush, there are some overreaching considerations that excerpts from this article points out.

Of note is that the Gen Y/Millennial generation is not as fixated on money, opposed to the classic "Baby Boom" generation.

It's potentially problematic when DALPA leaders are almost exclusively baby boomers.

It's an outright catastrophe when those leaders utterly ignore the demographic shift in their constituency, and instead push their "old-school" cram down techniques fixating on dollars and cents to the detriment of QOL.

This is obviously just a guideline--there are some significant differences between the average cube drone and pilot. But it is a starting point to understand one aspect of DALPA's abject failure.

In any case...Donatelli and his sidekicks are inflexible relics, unable to adapt to the changing landscape. They must go.

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How to Manage Different Generations

Managers are increasingly grappling with generational differences in their work forces. Problems can arise from differing mindsets and communication styles of workers born in different eras. The frictions may be aggravated by new technology and work patterns that mix workers of different ages in ever-changing teams.

Baby Boomers, born between 1946 and 1964, are competitive and think workers should pay their dues, workplace consultants say. Gen Xers, born between 1965 and 1977, are more likely to be skeptical and independent-minded. Gen Ys—also known as Millennials—were born in 1978 or later and like teamwork, feedback and technology.

The key is to be able to effectively address and take advantage of the differences in values and expectations of each generation. But experts say managers must be careful not to follow blanket stereotypes. Managers must also take care not to disadvantage older workers, even inadvertently, or risk retention problems and legal headaches.

Here are some strategies:

Send your managers to class so they can learn to recognize generational differences and adapt. It’s important that managers change rather than trying to change the staff.

Millennials generally don’t work well under rigid management structure. They prefer open collaborations that allow employees to share information and for everybody to contribute to decision-making.

Toss the routines. Experts say Millennials and Gen Xers dislike the formality of regular meetings, especially when there’s nothing to discuss. Limit meetings to when there’s a real need.

Give all employees a voice. Regardless of age and tenure, give all employees a forum in which to present ideas, concerns and complaints. Department heads should facilitate open communication throughout the office and set aside time to provide honest feedback.

Don’t apply a blanket communication-method policy. Boomers may prefer to communicate by phone or in person. Millennials grew up being in constant communication with peers and coworkers so are accustomed to emailing, texting or sending instant messages.

Don’t confuse character issues like immaturity, laziness or intractability with generational traits. Whereas Boomers may see a 60-hour work week as a prerequisite to achieving success, many hard-working Millennials may prefer a more balanced life that includes reasonable working hours–with occasional bouts of overtime–and weekends off. The latter may also voluntarily choose to make up the time in unstructured settings like working at a Starbucks on weekends.
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Old 07-19-2015 | 07:52 AM
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Baby Boomers didn't care about money until they started reaching retirement age either Einstein. You know, free love and all that hippy dippy stuff. Nothing new at all to see here. Boomers were just as lazy when they were younger too.
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Old 07-19-2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Ba Boomers were just as lazy when they were younger too.
Let's see............... According to DALPA, we are morons, idiots, and now lazy.

Why in God's green earth are we sending dues money to this organization?
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Old 07-19-2015 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg52
Let's see............... According to DALPA, we are morons, idiots, and now lazy.

Why in God's green earth are we sending dues money to this organization?
Don't worry, ALPA will tell YOU what's good for YOU....

And dare I say, it may not be a "generational" thing. It may be a combination of factors. Including a shift from a militant "just get in line and follow orders do what you're told and help the company out" to pilots that are ACTUALLY THINKING FOR THEMSELVES....
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Old 07-19-2015 | 09:22 AM
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I reject these analyses about generational differences. They're stereotypes at best, and erroneous presumptuous caricatures at worst. Especially for A-type pilots. Whether you're 25 or 55, you just want to be paid fairly, maximize time off, and not have delays on the last day.
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Old 07-19-2015 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg52
Let's see............... According to DALPA, we are morons, idiots, and now lazy.

Why in God's green earth are we sending dues money to this organization?
I think our biggest weakness has been what I call a "Tribal Squadron" mentality. Too often, our MEC administration's have been led by military types that see the need to surround themselves with like-minded minions. Marines surrounding themselves with other Marines, etc. I don't have military experience, only civilian. In my business life, I've been mentored by fantastic executives who taught me to resist building a team of clones from the same tribe as you. It's really easy to do, and the single biggest mistake you can make.

I think the upcoming generation will have a higher percentage of civilian types, and maybe (just maybe) they won't possess as much of this tribal squadron mentality. There are certainly plenty of military guys that reject the tribal squadron mentality, but unfortunately our recent leadership has been just the opposite. I have huge hopes for this new generation.

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Old 07-19-2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I think our biggest weakness has been what I call a "Tribal Squadron" mentality. Too often, our MEC administration's have been led by military types that see the need to surround themselves with like-minded minions. Marines surrounding themselves with other Marines, etc. I don't have military experience, only civilian. In my business life, I've been mentored by fantastic executives who taught me to resist building a team of clones from the same tribe as you. It's really easy to do, and the single biggest mistake you can make.

I think the upcoming generation will have a higher percentage of civilian types, and maybe (just maybe) they won't possess as much of this tribal squadron mentality. There are certainly plenty of military guys that reject the tribal squadron mentality, but unfortunately our recent leadership has been just the opposite. I have huge hopes for this new generation.

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I think these union leadership jobs attract a certain type of person, whether military or civilian. They surround themselves with like minded people. Not sure I would link it to the military. I'm military and know a lot of guys that wouldn't leave the cockpit to do that work no matter what.
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
I think these union leadership jobs attract a certain type of person, whether military or civilian. They surround themselves with like minded people. Not sure I would link it to the military. I'm military and know a lot of guys that wouldn't leave the cockpit to do that work no matter what.
I agree Hank, but recent history is too clear...especially here at Delta. Civilians do not have big leadership positions...they'll never be part of the squadron. We've tried this now to death. It's failed. Would like to see some civilian leaders with proven business success lead the future. Worth a try don't you think?

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Old 07-19-2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I agree Hank, but recent history is too clear...especially here at Delta. Civilians do not have big leadership positions...they'll never be part of the squadron. We've tried this now to death. It's failed. Would like to see some civilian leaders with proven business success lead the future. Worth a try don't you think?

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I think pilots fly airplanes and office guys sit in offices. Five years from now you'll have the same dudes sitting in those offices no matter what you call the organization.

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Old 07-19-2015 | 12:59 PM
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Agree with Carl. Networking with old military buddies may have been sufficient previously. But the good ol' boy network won't cut it any more. NA15 is a case study in the shortcomings of that mentality.

The future (successful future, anyway) points to some very specialized and highly experienced folks that may not be pilots or men) in top positions in our "union." Face it, the MEC Chair is a glorified lobbyist. He rewards his unqualified buddies with cushy gigs. He is only interested in furthering his future ambitions. Maybe that's who we need up there to lead us. Or maybe a labor attorney. As long as he/she is surrounded by sharp pilots and not yes men, this seems like a better solution. Pay the market rate for sound leadership.

Does Richard Trumka give lip service to being an assmbly line grunt? Was the Commander in Chief in the military? Why does our chairman need to be a pilot?
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