So does this end that "ALPA has the smartest lawyers ever" talk?

The worst part is that the administration lied to us. Numerous emails prior to this release stated emphatically that the settlement language had NO CHANGES to the existing contract language.

A flat out lie. They gave away a significant portion of leverage we had to achieve a great new contract. Stunned.

Carl

They all had to know. They all lied to us. Forget the reps selling the yes vote even the reps that voted no knew about this. They all need to go. We need to recall them all and start over. I feel like if someone has ever had any position at ALPA they need to fly the line for the rest of their careers. I was mad at the TA but we were betrayed with the JV settlement.

Agreed. I'm absolutely speechless at this.

Carl

There's more to come! Since the vote: record profits, more Rjs, GOL, Skymark, China Eastern, LGA remodel, JV email. Who's playing who? What's next? Virgin Atlantic space flight codeshare.

Don't forget the Delta Private Jets 'codeshare'

And that's just SINCE the vote. How about all the lies and obfuscation leading up to NA15? The sales job itself? The transgressions are too many to list.

When does it stop? Is there a DFR lawsuit in there? I think the AF/KLM settlement has got to be close.

What exactly is the argument for keeping ALPA on the property?

Makes me sick to see just how aligned DALPA was with Delta mgmt. It is almost like they are representing Delta mgmt. instead of the pilot group. Unbelievable. Donatelli is a disgrace.

I agree, and after reading the c48 update on chitchat I'm wondering if there is any hope for Dalpa at all:mad:

DALPA's been bent over with it's *** up in the air for so long it's sunburned.