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forgot to bid 08-04-2015 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1942803)
Scam of, as you know the change to top end scope would have been so small it would have been hard to even see its effect. It's likely the company will be in compliance with the current scope in the next measurement period. The change at the bottom was however huge. We were looking at 500 captains jobs with a fleet in the 70 to 90 jet range the company planned.

The change at the bottom? What change at the bottom? The only change at the bottom was allowing more jumbo rjs. We didn't have to change the contract to get the E190. They can order that any time they want.

And right now there is an incentive to doing just that- we are cheaper. So what's the excuse?

In order to afford the 70 to 90 E190 fleet plus 40 737-900s we need dci to drop from 450 to 425 while adding 55 jumbo rjs to the dci fleet? wait. That math doesn't work. Unless 25 CRJ200s cost as much as 130 mainline jets?

How about call it was it was. They wanted to add sjs to the ta to get us to vote in concessions. Nothing more. Like a light pole in nashville we say no to this crap moving forward.

scambo1 08-04-2015 05:03 AM

I saw what you did there.

scambo1 08-04-2015 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 1943004)
FYI - "moot" actually means arguable rather than irrelevant or inapplicable.

That being said, I agree with you.

Moot actually means arguably irrelevant, debatable, doubtful, academic, hypothetical. It is generally used in the negative rather than the positive.

Other APC synonyms: moo, mute; all useable interchangeably with spelling unimportant.

Hoser 08-04-2015 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1943006)
Like a light pole in nashville we say no to this crap moving forward.

Sweet. :D


how does one taxi into a light pole anyway? wow

scambo1 08-04-2015 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Hoser (Post 1943022)
Sweet. :D


how does one taxi into a light pole anyway? wow

There used to be a saying in the Air Force...no one survives a taxi accident.

Klondike Bear 08-04-2015 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Hoser (Post 1943022)
Sweet. :D


how does one taxi into a light pole anyway? wow

There were a bunch of planes on the ramp because of diverts from ATL. They were trying to get around a plane and didn't see the pole I guess. They got it about a third of the way in on the right wing.

Timbo 08-04-2015 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 1943031)
There were a bunch of planes on the ramp because of diverts from ATL. They were trying to get around a plane and didn't see the pole I guess. They got it about a third of the way in on the right wing.

Maybe that's why he thinks all his F/O's are 'stoopid'.

BobZ 08-04-2015 07:27 AM

this unfortunate incident would seem to illustrate some interesting axioms.

haste makes waste? or a stitch in time? There is never time to do it right...but always to do it twice? (aka do it once...) THE 7 'p'S,

sounds like an impatient individual, easily frustrated and angered with disruptions to his agenda and schedule.

couldn't we examine this ta process metaphorically, and assign the expedited and emotional mec process the identity of a frustrated and angry captain....in a hurry to 'get around' ramp traffic?

and the 65% who voted no.....the FO who saved the captains butt by saying STOP! in the nick of time?

Purple Drank 08-04-2015 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1942802)

I dont think it gives us any leverage.

There's a surprise.

Just out of curiosity, do you think we have any leverage anywhere?

BobZ 08-04-2015 08:28 AM

If we have no leverage, here is an idea. Fire alpa, put the money back in our pocket, and lets just have the company draft our pwa?


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