Talk to yur reps . . . learn the facts
08-04-2015, 03:05 AM
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Talk to yur reps . . . learn the facts
Talk to your reps . . . then ask them to resign . . . the conversation might surprise you and leave you wondering . . . I talked to several.
Nearly every point of direction that the negotiators were given was a unanimous or a strong majority of the MEC in favor. They actually vote when giving direction . . . and some folks actually keep track of that.
A couple of reps indicated weeks before the TA was reached that they intended to vote no . . .regardless of the final terms . . . period.
One even begged the negotiators not to bring back a TA because he was not ready . . . really, not ready after nearly a dozen meetings receiving briefings and updates on what was and was not changing?
One came up with a decent idea about a disability add-on . . . but surprisingly attacked it in his own council pro-con paper . . . his own idea . . . which the negotiators achieved after they were directed by him and the MEC to get it for the pilots.
They really did send the negotiators back to get more money and the answer was no . . . seems that the negotiators were telling the truth about that when they discussed it in open session at the last meeting in Reston while some on the MEC claim the negotiators are lying.
If the negotiators carried out the direction of the MEC, shouldn’t all of the members of the MEC be held accountable?
Are you asking for resignations or recall of your reps? If not, shame on you . . . shame.
Talk to your reps . . . then ask them to resign . . . the conversation will become quite interesting.
If they won’t resign, recall them . . . all of them. It only takes one of you to put in the request to recall.
Nearly every point of direction that the negotiators were given was a unanimous or a strong majority of the MEC in favor. They actually vote when giving direction . . . and some folks actually keep track of that.
A couple of reps indicated weeks before the TA was reached that they intended to vote no . . .regardless of the final terms . . . period.
One even begged the negotiators not to bring back a TA because he was not ready . . . really, not ready after nearly a dozen meetings receiving briefings and updates on what was and was not changing?
One came up with a decent idea about a disability add-on . . . but surprisingly attacked it in his own council pro-con paper . . . his own idea . . . which the negotiators achieved after they were directed by him and the MEC to get it for the pilots.
They really did send the negotiators back to get more money and the answer was no . . . seems that the negotiators were telling the truth about that when they discussed it in open session at the last meeting in Reston while some on the MEC claim the negotiators are lying.
If the negotiators carried out the direction of the MEC, shouldn’t all of the members of the MEC be held accountable?
Are you asking for resignations or recall of your reps? If not, shame on you . . . shame.
Talk to your reps . . . then ask them to resign . . . the conversation will become quite interesting.
If they won’t resign, recall them . . . all of them. It only takes one of you to put in the request to recall.
08-04-2015, 04:05 AM
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Straight QOL, homie
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I'm shocked, shocked to find another revisionist history post from the guy who ripped of Check Essential's name.
They are so desperate to stay off the line they'll do anything to avoid it.
It's pathetic and embarrassing.
A positive aspect of NA 15 is that a lot of folks are getting an education about how badly their dues dollars are wasted and abused and how little dalpa bureaucrats care for the line pilot.
They are so desperate to stay off the line they'll do anything to avoid it.
It's pathetic and embarrassing.
A positive aspect of NA 15 is that a lot of folks are getting an education about how badly their dues dollars are wasted and abused and how little dalpa bureaucrats care for the line pilot.
08-04-2015, 04:33 AM
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Uncle Chuck-
You sound desperate. Don't panic. It'll be OK.
You and your buddies might actually enjoy flying the line.
I know it doesn't pay as well as ALPA but we're going to elect some new reps who will fix that.
You sound desperate. Don't panic. It'll be OK.
You and your buddies might actually enjoy flying the line.
I know it doesn't pay as well as ALPA but we're going to elect some new reps who will fix that.
08-04-2015, 05:40 AM
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Chuck Essential is lying from start to finish folks.
Mods, can we please get this guy banned for purposely trying to confuse by ripping off Check Essential's screen name? They did it to me twice with their Carl Spakler and Carl Speckler names.
Carl
Mods, can we please get this guy banned for purposely trying to confuse by ripping off Check Essential's screen name? They did it to me twice with their Carl Spakler and Carl Speckler names.
Carl
08-04-2015, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Chuck Essential is lying from start to finish folks.
Mods, can we please get this guy banned for purposely trying to confuse by ripping off Check Essential's screen name? They did it to me twice with their Carl Spakler and Carl Speckler names.
Carl
Mods, can we please get this guy banned for purposely trying to confuse by ripping off Check Essential's screen name? They did it to me twice with their Carl Spakler and Carl Speckler names.
Carl
08-04-2015, 10:30 AM
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Talk to your reps? What do you think they are going to say, CHUCK?
They want to keep their jobs and as any politician will tell you, they will try to SELL SELL SELL you. The reps/politician/salesman/marketeer will tell YOU anything you want to hear so as long as they get to keep their jobs.
TEN
They want to keep their jobs and as any politician will tell you, they will try to SELL SELL SELL you. The reps/politician/salesman/marketeer will tell YOU anything you want to hear so as long as they get to keep their jobs.
TEN
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