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Purple Drank 08-04-2015 03:54 PM

"Good faith"
 
Sleepy Ed has been quoted as saying there is "no more money" in any deal. Frankly, I'm surprised RA is letting him anywhere near this deal after his incompetence with NA15.

Anyway, the RLA requires both parties to continue to negotiate in good faith.

I'm trying to figure out how a Ed's statement reflects a "good faith" position.

And if his statement is legal, then we need to deliver an equally inflammatory (and highly public) response. Why haven't we?

BenderRodriguez 08-04-2015 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1943410)
Sleepy Ed has been quoted as saying there is "no more money" in any deal. Frankly, I'm surprised RA is letting him anywhere near this deal after his incompetence with NA15.

Anyway, the RLA requires both parties to continue to negotiate in good faith.

I'm trying to figure out how a Ed's position reflects a "good faith" position.

And if his statement is legal, then we need to deliver an equally inflammatory (and highly public) response. Why haven't we?

Funny funny stuff.

sailingfun 08-04-2015 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1943410)
Sleepy Ed has been quoted as saying there is "no more money" in any deal. Frankly, I'm surprised RA is letting him anywhere near this deal after his incompetence with NA15.

Anyway, the RLA requires both parties to continue to negotiate in good faith.

I'm trying to figure out how a Ed's statement reflects a "good faith" position.

And if his statement is legal, then we need to deliver an equally inflammatory (and highly public) response. Why haven't we?

Can you post his comments or provide a link?

Purple Drank 08-04-2015 04:48 PM

It was reported by a captain in a recent "in command" class addressed by Sleepy Ed.

It was also alluded to in the latest C48 update.

scambo1 08-04-2015 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1943445)
It was reported by a captain in a recent "in command" class addressed by Sleepy Ed.

It was also alluded to in the latest C48 update.

That needs to get out there.

You want top PO the top half of the seniority list? Have sleepy Ed tighten the purse strings.

BobZ 08-04-2015 04:59 PM

No mo muny? Okay then..how about week 6 and 7 of vacation?

Would anyone expect them to say anything other than that?

sailingfun 08-04-2015 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 1943454)
No mo muny? Okay then..how about week 6 and 7 of vacation?

Would anyone expect them to say anything other than that?

That's money as is almost every aspect of the contract. How could you even remotely view that as no cost??

gzsg 08-04-2015 06:18 PM

Sleepy can just not reduce one penny of our profit sharing, go to 7 weeks of vacation and eliminate concessions.

ImTumbleweed 08-04-2015 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1943445)
It was reported by a captain in a recent "in command" class addressed by Sleepy Ed.

It was also alluded to in the latest C48 update.

I've heard the same.

The quote I heard was:

"We'll get a new TA"...then almost under his breath said "but the economics will not change".

He won't settle for anything other than a "cost neutral contract".

"Constructive Engagement" was an interesting approach to negotiations. Obviously, we've learned that this approach is not working.

It's time for a new approach to negotiations.

The company needs to learn that it's in their financial best interests to pay us an honest wage, for honest work, while we are forced to spend almost half our lives away from home.

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BobZ 08-05-2015 05:03 AM

Well it worked for one side of the table.

Every time we push back the video says we have the worlds best employees...... is it not unreasonable to be compensated accordingly?

I'm pretty sure at least a few employees at delta are compensated at the top...


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