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tunes 03-17-2016 03:23 PM

just wait til you see what happens when the 190 goes out for bid





and this didn't need it's own thread

tunes 03-17-2016 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090935)
No, I'm saying that an MD-88 is not the same kind of plane as the one that someone has possibly flown before, i.e. A regional jet or 737 for example. In the even of an emergency, do I really want someone who has pretty much been on reserve for most of their new career at Delta, someone who has had possibly one PC prior to upgrade and then move into the left seat of an entirely new aircraft? And, you're going to rely on training and IOE to "season" someone enough to become a CA?

Let's imagine this CA, who has been on property for a year and a half with a month or two experience in the MD-88 has an incident, heaven forbid. The class action lawsuit that would result from this would be unimaginable. Then, just imagine Congress' response. The risk management alone is making my head hurt.

Seriously Packrat, I'm really starting to question if you're actually a pilot or just a groupie.

we get it, you suck at the whole flying/decision making thing

FirstClass 03-17-2016 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090918)
So let me get this straight: you could be hired into a 737 at Delta a year and five months ago, then upgrade to CA in a MD-88?

First off, that's very quick.

Second, if this came out in the press, do you think there will be some sort of backlash by the public in regards to safety? I do not think I would want to fly with a CA in that position, nor would I want to be a CA in that position. If my wife was a FA at Delta, I do not think I'd be comfortable with that either.

But, all that being said, I'm sure there's some sort of restriction on when you can upgrade.

You can be a captain on the airbus at Allegiant in 7 months.

thinkstraight 03-17-2016 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2090953)
we get it, you suck at the whole flying/decision making thing

That's why he's on the A320, can't fly a real airplane...

iceman49 03-17-2016 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090935)
No, I'm saying that an MD-88 is not the same kind of plane as the one that someone has possibly flown before, i.e. A regional jet or 737 for example. In the even of an emergency, do I really want someone who has pretty much been on reserve for most of their new career at Delta, someone who has had possibly one PC prior to upgrade and then move into the left seat of an entirely new aircraft? And, you're going to rely on training and IOE to "season" someone enough to become a CA?

Let's imagine this CA, who has been on property for a year and a half with a month or two experience in the MD-88 has an incident, heaven forbid. The class action lawsuit that would result from this would be unimaginable. Then, just imagine Congress' response. The risk management alone is making my head hurt.

Seriously Packrat, I'm really starting to question if you're actually a pilot or just a groupie.

So if you went to DL and you had the opportunity to bid the left seat, you wouldn't do it? We do have a training program, last I knew you cannot pair 2 new pilots (new to the aircraft) without 1 of them having 70 hours. Yes Packrat does have a clue.
Additionally how many incidents have occurred with "experienced" individuals.
Congrats to the individual!

thinkstraight 03-17-2016 03:35 PM

You can thank PBS for the quick upgrades.

Being junior in any seat sucks, so if your'e going to be junior anyway might as well be the captain!

iceman49 03-17-2016 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 2090960)
You can thank PBS for the quick upgrades.

Being junior in any seat sucks, so if your'e going to be junior anyway might as well be the captain!

Curious as to the PBS comment?

Lobaeux 03-17-2016 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2090953)
we get it, you suck at the whole flying/decision making thing

Yep, you got me there buddy. Good one.


Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 2090956)
That's why he's on the A320, can't fly a real airplane...

Again, great comeback. I would pit my experience against yours any day of the week without even looking at your profile.


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 2090958)
So if you went to DL and you had the opportunity to bid the left seat, you wouldn't do it? We do have a training program, last I knew you cannot pair 2 new pilots (new to the aircraft) without 1 of them having 70 hours. Yes Packrat does have a clue.
Additionally how many incidents have occurred with "experienced" individuals.
Congrats to the individual!

Great news for the individual who received the award. I'm not talking about individual pilots themselves. Ask yourselves, would you really feel comfortable with your wife and family in the back of an MD-88 with a Captain who has zero experience in the airframe?

Since it sounds like you guys think this is a great idea, then so be it. Good luck!

tunes 03-17-2016 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090969)
Yep, you got me there buddy. Good one.



Again, great comeback. I would pit my experience against yours any day of the week without even looking at your profile.



Great news for the individual who received the award. I'm not talking about individual pilots themselves. Ask yourselves, would you really feel comfortable with your wife and family in the back of an MD-88 with a Captain who has zero experience in the airframe?

Since it sounds like you guys think this is a great idea, then so be it. Good luck!

yeah because street captains at regionals are cool...but this isn't.

get over yourself

tomgoodman 03-17-2016 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090935)
...an MD-88 is not the same kind of plane as the one that someone has possibly flown before...

The MadDog will never be the same kind of plane that you have flown before, even if you just flew one yesterday. :D


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