Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090995)

Yes, I realize that. But, let me ask a question.

What's the length of time before you can hold a line at DAL in the 737? How many hours can you expect to fly in a year and five months?

Hours prior to being hired aside, because they can vary greatly, how many hours will a pilot at DAL accrue in the first year and five months of being on property?

Isn't the normal track: narrow body FO, wide body FO, narrow body CA, wide body CA? Of course there's going to be movement, and there will possibly be individuals who have never flown a type becoming a CA in that type, but they've usually been on property flying for a number of years, accumulating quite a few hours in the process.

The possibility here is you could have an FO hired into the 757/767 for the first year and a half at DAL, an FO who probably isn't holding a line during that time (admittedly, I'm not at DAL so if you're a line holder within a couple of months on the 757/767 obviously this doesn't apply), and they can hold CA on a MD-88, a type they've probably not flown before their OE except in the simulator. That new MD-88 captain may have xx hours (going off the forums here, again an extremely dodgy proposition, but a year and a half in the 757 as a newhire, maybe 250 hours of seat time?) on property and no one sees a safety issue with this?

There hasn't even been a mention of being paired with a newhire FO, let's say he has 250-300 hours in the MD-88, more than that new CA, no one sees a safety issue here?

I'll acquiesce the point here, good for him/her/them. I really hope nothing ever goes wrong.

Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2091008)

I.

You guys are saying there's no issue at all with someone with no time in type being the Captain, fine. I wouldn't want my family on that plane.

Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090995)

Yes, I realize that. But, let me ask a question.

What's the length of time before you can hold a line at DAL in the 737? How many hours can you expect to fly in a year and five months? i have no idea and it's irrelevant.

Hours prior to being hired aside, because they can vary greatly, how many hours will a pilot at DAL accrue in the first year and five months of being on property? i have no idea. Also irrelevant.

Isn't the normal track: narrow body FO, wide body FO, narrow body CA, wide body CA? No. It's not. There is no normal track. Everyone has different reasons for bidding things.

The possibility here is you could have an FO hired into the 757/767 for the first year and a half at DAL, an FO who probably isn't holding a line during that time (admittedly, I'm not at DAL so if you're a line holder within a couple of months on the 757/767 obviously this doesn't apply), and they can hold CA on a MD-88, a type they've probably not flown before their OE except in the simulator. That new MD-88 captain may have xx hours (going off the forums here, again an extremely dodgy proposition, but a year and a half in the 757 as a newhire, maybe 250 hours of seat time?) on property and no one sees a safety issue with this? Nope. I don't.

There hasn't even been a mention of being paired with a newhire FO, let's say he has 250-300 hours in the MD-88, more than that new CA, no one sees a safety issue here? It's not ideal, but this literally happens every single day in part 121 flying.

I'll acquiesce the point here, good for him/her/them. I really hope nothing ever goes wrong.

Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2090975)

The MadDog will never be the same kind of plane that you have flown before, even if you just flew one yesterday. :D

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2091031)

What about a 15 yr 330 fo that upgrades to the 80? That happens at every airline with multiple types. Anyone at dal has plenty of time and probably pic time. How is this different than that 15 yr 330 fo moving to the left seat on the 80?

Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 2090995)

Yes, I realize that. But, let me ask a question.

What's the length of time before you can hold a line at DAL in the 737? How many hours can you expect to fly in a year and five months?

Hours prior to being hired aside, because they can vary greatly, how many hours will a pilot at DAL accrue in the first year and five months of being on property?

Isn't the normal track: narrow body FO, wide body FO, narrow body CA, wide body CA? Of course there's going to be movement, and there will possibly be individuals who have never flown a type becoming a CA in that type, but they've usually been on property flying for a number of years, accumulating quite a few hours in the process.

The possibility here is you could have an FO hired into the 757/767 for the first year and a half at DAL, an FO who probably isn't holding a line during that time (admittedly, I'm not at DAL so if you're a line holder within a couple of months on the 757/767 obviously this doesn't apply), and they can hold CA on a MD-88, a type they've probably not flown before their OE except in the simulator. That new MD-88 captain may have xx hours (going off the forums here, again an extremely dodgy proposition, but a year and a half in the 757 as a newhire, maybe 250 hours of seat time?) on property and no one sees a safety issue with this?

There hasn't even been a mention of being paired with a newhire FO, let's say he has 250-300 hours in the MD-88, more than that new CA, no one sees a safety issue here?

I'll acquiesce the point here, good for him/her/them. I really hope nothing ever goes wrong.