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I heard it is the 717 Fleet Captain that's hard over on the LCA's, and telling the NEW HIRES not to wear a lanyard.
What a bunch of tough guys, threatening new hires now. Fking tools. Or perhaps it's being misinterpreted? Maybe the LCA's might be trying to do them a favor, and telling new hires, "Look, while you are on probation, best not kick the hornet's nest..." I hope it's the latter, not the former. Many years ago, (1989) I did have a BOS 767 LCA tell me to take off my, "No B Scale" tie tack. He said, "I just want you to know, that is NOT authorized" . I was not a new hire though, I had 4 years in already and wasn't getting an IOE from him, so I left it on for the whole 4 day trip, but it was a long, quiet, 4 days. No wonder his trips were always in open time! |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 2092357)
Jungle, agree with your post with the exception of this: Now I know some LCAs see themselves in management's camp, but not all or even the majority.
I would say a minority of the LCAs do not think of themselves as management. I know the ones I fly with are not like that at all, they know they aren't management because they know they aren't being paid in stock options. Ever since they lost their $3 Million DB retirement plan, and a boat load of money every year in ongoing pay cuts, there aren't too many kool aid kids left on the 777. There is this ONE guy though...:eek: Scambo can verify. :D |
Tim, hoping you are correct...just think if the chairman asks you to show unity and support by wearing the orange, they should do it. They are in the union, if they all showed up with them on...what would happen....all of the pilots are a unified group, or not.
Leaders should take the lead. JMHO |
I would hope the company is smarter than that and wouldn't **** off their LCA.
Could you imagine the consequences to the operation if the LCA didn't work as much or left flight standards en masse? If push comes to shove, how many senior ****ed off LCA are going to side with the company? Sum Ting Wong...... |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2092398)
I heard it is the 717 Fleet Captain that's hard over on the LCA's, and telling the NEW HIRES not to wear a lanyard.
What a bunch of tough guys, threatening new hires now. Fking tools. Or perhaps it's being misinterpreted? Maybe the LCA's might be trying to do them a favor, and telling new hires, "Look, while you are on probation, best not kick the hornet's nest..." I hope it's the latter, not the former. Many years ago, (1989) I did have a BOS 767 LCA tell me to take off my, "No B Scale" tie tack. He said, "I just want you to know, that is NOT authorized" . I was not a new hire though, I had 4 years in already and wasn't getting an IOE from him, so I left it on for the whole 4 day trip, but it was a long, quiet, 4 days. No wonder his trips were always in open time! |
Originally Posted by Wuzatforus
(Post 2092431)
Lemme guess. LCA initials MC?
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Originally Posted by deadzoner
(Post 2092427)
Could you imagine the consequences to the operation if the LCA didn't work as much or left flight standards en masse?
Careful there, hypotheticals is what got TC sanctioned! ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis
(Post 2091781)
LCA's are not your supervisor, or management. That's CPO or above. If confronted by a LCA about a lanyard you might ask them politely who negotiated their LCA pay.
Chatted with a LCA in ATL yesterday with both me and F/O in orange. Not a word. |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2092213)
Based on the fact that Delta Management is hard over on posting industry leading 'completion rates', I pity the fool LCA who cancels a flight, fighting over a lanyard!
Great point |
Originally Posted by Seaslap8
(Post 2092472)
Not sure but I don't think ALPA negotiated LCA pay if that is what you're insinuating... at least I can't find it in the PWA compensation section.
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