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Wuzatforus 03-19-2016 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2092436)
His initial were...Pete Martin, a non-ALPA member (prior to agency shop) and one of the founders of the PPA as well. :rolleyes:

Did you know PPA stood for Penny Pinching A------s?

No. That's "aviators", but I like the way you think (same number of letters).

Is Pete the guy who wore a tie tack with his testosterone level number on it?

Valar Morghulis 03-20-2016 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Seaslap8 (Post 2092472)
Not sure but I don't think ALPA negotiated LCA pay if that is what you're insinuating... at least I can't find it in the PWA compensation section.

11.C.12.b.1

I think it would be appropriate to ask if they are getting their ALPA negotiated override while advocating violating the contract and being involved in anti-Union activities :rolleyes:

Timbo 03-20-2016 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Wuzatforus (Post 2092505)
Did you know PPA stood for Penny Pinching A------s?

No. That's "aviators", but I like the way you think (same number of letters).

Is Pete the guy who wore a tie tack with his testosterone level number on it?

Yeah, I think that's why his tie was always limp...:D

FL370esq 03-20-2016 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2092398)
I heard it is the 717 Fleet Captain that's hard over on the LCA's, and telling the NEW HIRES not to wear a lanyard.

I believe the current B717 Fleet Captain is the former DALPA Merger Committee chairman which makes me doubt he would have a hard-on for the lanyards but you never know.

As for the new hires, if he is, in fact, telling them not to wear the lanyard, maybe he is doing so out of caution for their probabtionary status.

notEnuf 03-20-2016 09:58 AM

The LCA override sucks. The regionals paid a better percentage 20 years ago.

DFW Refugee 03-20-2016 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2092405)
I think it has more to do with how long the LCA has been here, and how much he lost in the Bankruptcy, and how many years he's got left to retire.

I know the ones I fly with are not like that at all, they know they aren't management because they know they aren't being paid in stock options. Ever since they lost their $3 Million DB retirement plan, and a boat load of money every year in ongoing pay cuts, there aren't too many kool aid kids left on the 777.

There is this ONE guy though...:eek:

Scambo can verify. :D


Just wondering: R. B.? :cool:

Xray678 03-20-2016 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2092398)
I heard it is the 717 Fleet Captain that's hard over on the LCA's, and telling the NEW HIRES not to wear a lanyard. !

The fleet captain owns the sim instructors, the LCAs work for the Chief Line Check Pilot...two completely separate chains of command. So the fleet captain is not telling the LCPs anything with regard to the lanyard.

Timbo 03-20-2016 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 2092736)
Just wondering: R. B.? :cool:

I've never had to fly with him, but heard some stories. Most of them in ATL are great guys (I don't know any in DTW) and I enjoy flying with them.

The 'one guy' in ATL I was thinking of is the same one who prohibits the use of Vertical Speed, ever, likes to get all preachy in the cockpit, not about religion but about his techniques, and takes himself waaayyy too seriously. :rolleyes:

Timbo 03-20-2016 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2092871)
The fleet captain owns the sim instructors, the LCAs work for the Chief Line Check Pilot...two completely separate chains of command. So the fleet captain is not telling the LCPs anything with regard to the lanyard.

Thanks for clearing that up, I never heard a name, just that it was coming from that fleet's LCA's in particular. Not sure about any of the other fleets, I know nobody in my fleet gives a hoot.

scambo1 03-20-2016 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2092883)
Thanks for clearing that up, I never heard a name, just that it was coming from that fleet's LCA's in particular. Not sure about any of the other fleets, I know nobody in my fleet gives a hoot.

There's a lot of guys in our fleet who have completely lost faith in Alpa. Completely. It will be a tough road, even for JM, to bring them into the "unity" fold.

That is more of the driver, IMO, of any lack of lanyard wearing. We often look at the 777As as having it made. But, those guys are all dead zoners. They dont care what you wear around your neck.


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