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No disrespect intended...

Not only no, but **** NO

What you suggest is: if I don't use all of MY sick time, ALPA gets paid? YGBSM...

The union already gets way too much of our/my money!




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Something is definitely wrong when they can forcibly reroute a reserve into a golden day off and only pay a few hours of reroute pay above guarantee and partial day payback rest (block in + 9.5) when if it was voluntarily a green slip it would be 5+15 above guarantee and a whole payback day. Ask me how I know.:mad:

we no longer have any work rules worth anything. our future contract offer does not improve our QOL that much either.

This is true. We are expected to be ready to fly to FAR max everytime we go to work. Anyone who refuses an extension knows that the chief pilot who follows up will tell you that refusing an extension is against the norm.

Who cares? Do what you need to do.

The other problem is we need a Union that we feel confidant that they will go to bat for us. There has been many changes to the association, but I fear not much has changed and if you are not in the country club you will not be defended like those in it. That pertains to grievances as well.

When we recalled and elected new people who talked restoration, but gave us a re-engagement counter offer that does not address work rules, pattern construction that will force taking pilots input, vacation pay, training pay, take the auto extension off the table, retirement, insurance and so forth I see things at DALPA staying status Quo.

I am wearing orange and am supporting DALPA, but they need to prove to us things have changed because of their past track history, trust has been lost and only time and actions will change that, no to auto extensions and unreasonable re-routes and pay issues with fatigue should be advocated now by our association, I wish we had a union.

So? If you can't go you can't go. It's our job to make that call. It's like growing a pair and calling in sick when you are too sick to fly. Are we really that worried about a phone call? Is it right? No but the possibility of getting a call is not impacting my decision.

I flew with a Capt that refused an extension, we were on different rotations so it wasn't an issue for me. Replacement was found and we continued on. I flew with the same Capt a few months later and the only CPO call he got was one apologizing for not being able to give him reroute pay for the additional overnight. I question whether or not the intimation calls are as rampant as the Internet would lead me to believe.

The calls are SOP. If you see that as intimidation fine. If you see it as an after actions report fine. I have refused to extend 2 times, both times I got a call. They were professional and explored the circumstances for what happened. Is there a potential to Monday morning quarterback the situation? Yes. Do I care? No. I made the decisions at the time, in the condition I was in, with the information I had available, end of story. Did one chief come off different than the other? Yes, I chalked it up to personality and responded with several "yes sir"(s). They have a job to do also, and how they do that job is their decision. My opinion is that it was a non-event but I see how some could be offended. The bottom line as always is be safe. They will tell you that also.

I got paid and I got rest. Mission accomplished.

I refused to extend twice. Both times, as per the FOM, I included the duty pilot in the discussion and never heard from the CPO. Recently, I flew with an FO who refused an extension, with full support from me. He was given a domicile layover, and I picked him up the next day to resume the balance of the trip. He said, the CPO office called him to gather some facts, but didn't give him any grief. Also mentioned to him, if you call the DP with the facts, you shouldn't get a call from the CPO unless they need further info.

Thanks! Saw this same code on my time card today. Amazing what a search on APC can unearth :)