Scooter432

mispoken,
I know it sucks, but to stay outta trouble especially on probation I'd try not to commute back and forth especially with that short amount of time home. I don't know if you are a 1 leg or 2 leg commuter, but spare yourself the drama and just stay in base. Too many variables on reserve and if you are in NYC, a drop of rain will shut that corner of airspace down. After probation, and you get some time under your belt with the system, then maybe venture home IMO.

bohicagain

Sorry for the thread drift

If I bid 7 straight days on reserve. When will the company give me my 30/7 break? Assuming I do not get a 30 hour overnight.

What have you guys been getting?

mispoken

I've been having my 30/7 assigned at the end of 4 day trips, typically. I had a 29.5 hour overnight before my last leg back to base, landed and put on 30 hours. It kills nearly 2 days of potential work, in my short amount of experience as a reserve holder.

mispoken

I'm DTW, and I'm a 45 min flight, one leg. Going home sometimes works out on 30 hrs rest but I only do it if there are at least 2 delta flights back to base before I'm rescheduleable. Figuring out when that time is, has been the difficult for me, but I think I get it now. As early as 10 hours after my rest ends if on short call or 12 hours if long call/assigned a trip.

With that being said, I have been doing what you're saying and mostly erring on the side of caution and staying in base.

It SEEMS sitting long call at home could lead to some issues too? If they call at 9 at night for a 9 am report, that'll be close as there is typically only one flight that will arrive in time. Has anyone run into this scenario?

Thanks!

Sputnik

Keep in mind you can easily work 7 days straight without a 30 hour break. It is an improtant and fairly easy understand part of the contract to read. The 168 hour lookback is not the same as 7 days. Take a look.

bohicagain

you need 30 hours of continuous rest within the previous 168 rolling hours.

Since Long call is not considered rest how can one work 7 days in a row without the required 30 hours of continuous rest before starting any duty period on day 7?

charleyvarrick

If you check your schedule at 1500 on your last day off and have been assigned a trip with a 1500 report, is that then set in stone?

BlaneO

No reserve trip is set in stone until you're within 12 hrs. They could call you at midnight with at 12 noon trip if the schedule fell apart. At 3am the 1500 trip becomes solid.

charleyvarrick

Ah.

So, is it correct to say that putting an assignment on your schedule by at least 1500 on your last day off is their only chance to assign you a first day 1000 report? Otherwise the earliest will be 1200?

Thanks from a noob.

SabreDriver

Actually, IIRC, you need to have been in a 30 hour rest/off block within the previous 168 at the start of a FDP. A real step back from the old 1in7 guidelines.

So:

Let's say you were off, or assigned a block of rest that ends on a Monday at 1200...

You then you have a 7 day combination of pairings and/or long call, all without a 30 hour break.

You can be assigned to start a FDP that begins at 11:59 on the following Monday. I think the old adage "legal to start, legal to finish" comes to mind.

When that FDP ends, you are toast until you get a 30 hour.

Bottom line, at the start of a FDP, you have to be able to look back 168 hours (7 days) and find a piece of a 30 hour break in that window, no matter how small.

On the domestic fleets, there are so many 4 & 5 day trips with 30 hour breaks, that a reserve with a long stretch of available days is in real danger of being stuck out for the duration.

That's the way I understand it, I'll stand by to be corrected if I'm off in my understanding.


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