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thefoxsays 04-28-2016 07:54 AM

Is Delta a Dead end Career?
 
With the order of more small jets, the A330 to VA scheme, and the only WB growth going to Joint Ventures (see the CEA thread), is Delta going to remain a solid international carrier? Or only a watered down domestic airline which feeds the JV's?


I'm seriously worried.

I'm praying that DAL remains a big boy airline..

Molon Labe 04-28-2016 08:07 AM

If you analyse the actions of Delta not the verbiage or rhetoric of Delta management and the former regime at DALPA, which it looks like you have done correctly, I would say you are correct. I was a 747 Captain at NWA for 12 years prior to merging into Delta and managed another 5 years in that capacity at Delta but now am a narrowbody Captain largely because of shrinkage of the fleet of large desirable widebodies. The management claim that "The A350 is the REPLACEMENT for the 747" doesn't wash since the first A350's don't arrive until the LAST and I mean last of the 747's are going away. When the begining of a new series of aircraft don't arrive until the last of it's predecessor are vanishing that is NOT a replacement, that is a business plan change.By the actions and deeds of Delta management it is foreseeable that Delta will evolve into a glorified Southwest Airlines with "gateway tentacles" of minimalist widebody flying into overseas gateway Joint Venture hubs. Lots of virtual airline stuff.

OldFlyGuy 04-28-2016 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Molon Labe (Post 2118393)
If you analyse the actions of Delta not the verbiage or rhetoric of Delta management and the former regime at DALPA, which it looks like you have done correctly, I would say you are correct. I was a 747 Captain at NWA for 12 years prior to merging into Delta and managed another 5 years in that capacity at Delta but now am a narrowbody Captain largely because of shrinkage of the fleet of large desirable widebodies. The management claim that "The A350 is the REPLACEMENT for the 747" doesn't wash since the first A350's don't arrive until the LAST and I mean last of the 747's are going away. When the begining of a new series of aircraft don't arrive until the last of it's predecessor are vanishing that is NOT a replacement, that is a business plan change.By the actions and deeds of Delta management it is foreseeable that Delta will evolve into a glorified Southwest Airlines with "gateway tentacles" of minimalist widebody flying into overseas gateway Joint Venture hubs. Lots of virtual airline stuff.

Let's ask Ed! OFG

HeavyDriver 04-28-2016 08:13 AM

I'm a Pan Am brat...So if you want to know what's going to happen to Delta (or all the top apex airlines) only time and the bankruptcy courts will tell.

Hank Kingsley 04-28-2016 08:17 AM

I think DAL will service international hubs like AMS, CDG and PVG. Seasonal service to a variety of destinations, but the good old days are indeed gone. Look at it this way, international flying is tough on your circadian rhythm. And pulling your rollerboard through Atlanta is outstanding cardio.

JamesBond 04-28-2016 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by HeavyDriver (Post 2118398)
I'm a Pan Am brat...So if you want to know what's going to happen to Delta (or all the top apex airlines) only time and the bankruptcy courts will tell.

Apples and shotguns. Not even close.

Bucking Bar 04-28-2016 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Molon Labe (Post 2118393)
If you analyse the actions of Delta not the verbiage or rhetoric of Delta management and the former regime at DALPA, which it looks like you have done correctly, I would say you are correct. I was a 747 Captain at NWA for 12 years prior to merging into Delta and managed another 5 years in that capacity at Delta but now am a narrowbody Captain largely because of shrinkage of the fleet of large desirable widebodies. The management claim that "The A350 is the REPLACEMENT for the 747" doesn't wash since the first A350's don't arrive until the LAST and I mean last of the 747's are going away. When the begining of a new series of aircraft don't arrive until the last of it's predecessor are vanishing that is NOT a replacement, that is a business plan change.By the actions and deeds of Delta management it is foreseeable that Delta will evolve into a glorified Southwest Airlines with "gateway tentacles" of minimalist widebody flying into overseas gateway Joint Venture hubs. Lots of virtual airline stuff.


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marcal 04-28-2016 08:41 AM

With the exception of a few years in the mid-2000's, DAL was never a HUGE international airline. They had their token Europe and Asia routes but not on the scale of AA/UAL. They only had 74's for a very short time. DAL in my mind has always been a large Southern domestic airline with a few long hauls to the big cities in Europe/Asia. That doesn't seem to be changing.

Molon Labe 04-28-2016 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 2118425)
With the exception of a few years in the mid-2000's, DAL was never a HUGE international airline. They had their token Europe and Asia routes but not on the scale of AA/UAL. They only had 74's for a very short time. DAL in my mind has always been a large Southern domestic airline with a few long hauls to the big cities in Europe/Asia. That doesn't seem to be changing.

Extremely accurate view! Even when acquiring HUGE international assets DAL reverts back to your description. Ned Beatty beware!

badflaps 04-28-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Molon Labe (Post 2118429)
Extremely accurate view! Even when acquiring HUGE international assets DAL reverts back to your description. Ned Beatty beware!

It is called the Mon-roe syndrome.:D


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