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Mesabah 04-28-2016 10:25 AM

So the pilot contract is valued at around $2 billion/yr, and Delta is making what, $8ish billion/yr now? Seems like there is room to double narrowbody pay, no?

GogglesPisano 04-28-2016 10:26 AM

The last bid had an unfilled NYC 767-400 B. As far as weekends off and holding a line? Mmm, I'm going to say 4-5 years.

HalinTexas 04-28-2016 10:27 AM

D@mn, we should all be so unlucky as to be a DAL pilot their entire career.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=DAL+Key+Statistics

GogglesPisano 04-28-2016 10:30 AM

If you want to fly a pure widebody ASAP, head over to UAL with their 74 777's (with 15 -300's on order.)

But hey, we're gettin' the C-series. I know right? So cool.:rolleyes:

FLY6584 04-28-2016 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2118503)
The last bid had an unfilled NYC 767-400 B. As far as weekends off and holding a line? Mmm, I'm going to say 4-5 years.

How about holding a line and weekends off on a WB in ATL? I would be commuting from Florida and trying to decide if giving up driving to work is worth commuting for widebody pay and schedule?

FLY6584 04-28-2016 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2118506)
If you want to fly a pure widebody ASAP, head over to UAL with their 74 777's (with 15 -300's on order.)

But hey, we're gettin' the C-series. I know right? So cool.:rolleyes:

To be honest I really actually don't care about flying a widebody internationally. I got my fix of that flying MD-11's in the ACMI cargo world. For me it's purely about pay and the 9 day schedule I hear about.

I also think United is going to have the most problems down the road with the shortage of pilots and regionals going out of business. I think Delta is smart buying smaller jets and making sure they don't have to rely on regionals. And I think American is smart focusing so much on honoring their flows so people will want to fly for the regionals that support their flying. What is United doing to protect their short haul domestic flying?

GogglesPisano 04-28-2016 10:41 AM

I just checked ATL 765B. Weekends off and lineholder = about 7400/12000. This is roughly 61% on the list. To get from 100% to 61% could take 6-7 years.

This is all a rough approximation.

Hank Kingsley 04-28-2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 2118425)
With the exception of a few years in the mid-2000's, DAL was never a HUGE international airline. They had their token Europe and Asia routes but not on the scale of AA/UAL. They only had 74's for a very short time. DAL in my mind has always been a large Southern domestic airline with a few long hauls to the big cities in Europe/Asia. That doesn't seem to be changing.

Largest across the Atlantic. Right after PAA, DAL flew everywhere in Europe for several years.

Molon Labe 04-28-2016 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by WhatNow (Post 2118493)
The first 350's arrive next Spring. The 747 fleet will be flying about the same block hours summer of 17 as this summer. There are also 4 more A330 yet to arrive in addition to the 6 we just received.
Overall we will get almost 40 additional wide bodies by 2020.

Nice way to sugar coat the turd...the LAST 747 s will go away 6 months after the first A350 s arrive, and even then the A350 is a poor substitute foe a 777 or worse yet a 747.

pilotc90a 04-28-2016 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by WhatNow (Post 2118493)
The first 350's arrive next Spring. The 747 fleet will be flying about the same block hours summer of 17 as this summer. There are also 4 more A330 yet to arrive in addition to the 6 we just received.
Overall we will get almost 40 additional wide bodies by 2020.

I would like someone to explain how you fly the same number of block hours when you go from 9 to 7 airframes...


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