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Dat jet 05-19-2016 05:37 AM

Latest Negotiator's Notepad
 
Looks like management just wants to keep kicking a hornets nest. Management still wants concessions in Scope, where they are still out of balance in the AF/Royal Dutch KLM JV.
Write your reps...don't give management any concessions on the widebody scope metrics.

Per Diem , 401K, vacation, CQ....company apparently still wants failed TA offerings.

Buckle up that backpack boys and girls

thinkstraight 05-19-2016 06:16 AM

Pretty much all the things I voted no for.

Check Essential 05-19-2016 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Dat jet (Post 2131784)
Looks like management just wants to keep kicking a hornets nest.

Management is pretty much showing open disdain for the pilot group.
That would have unnerved the old DALPA. Not gonna work this time.

Oh well. They have a couple more months to stall if they wish.

Then it will be time for the pilots to turn up the heat.

I say we organize the flight attendants.
Apparently there is some support for that idea on the MEC. We'll see.

Trip7 05-19-2016 11:35 AM

No need to do anything. 28-30% profit sharing check coming in Feb. Oil prices will be low for years due to excess capacity. We'll wait and keep cashing the check every Feb.

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WhatNow 05-19-2016 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 2131982)
Management is pretty much showing open disdain for the pilot group.
That would have unnerved the old DALPA. Not gonna work this time.

Oh well. They have a couple more months to stall if they wish.

Then it will be time for the pilots to turn up the heat.

I say we organize the flight attendants.
Apparently there is some support for that idea on the MEC. We'll see.

I suspect if we encouraged the flight attendants to organize it would have the opposite effect and result in more no votes. Several entities have tried numerous times to organize the flight attendants. They have poured large sums of money into the effort without success.
I am actually not even sure what you're suggesting. Do you want ALPA to represent them? Do you want ALPA to provide the financial support for another AFA attempt. How much do you think we should spend?

WhatNow 05-19-2016 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 2131796)
Pretty much all the things I voted no for.

Surprisingly it appears we have agreed to concessions already in some sections. It appears we may have a agreement on sick leave soon that addresses the companies perceived issues.

JamesBond 05-19-2016 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 2131982)
I say we organize the flight attendants.

Hell to the no.

DALMD88FO 05-19-2016 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by WhatNow (Post 2132016)
Surprisingly it appears we have agreed to concessions already in some sections. It appears we may have a agreement on sick leave soon that addresses the companies perceived issues.

That ends up being an easy no vote then.

GogglesPisano 05-19-2016 12:25 PM

How on earth would organizing the FA's help us?

WhatNow 05-19-2016 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2132019)
That ends up being an easy no vote then.

The Company’s primary concerns seem to be extremely high uses of sick leave in a small minority of pilots and the continuing rise of sick leave usage overall. Recent discussions have centered on exploring acceptable paths to addressing these issues without increasing access to a pilot’s medical records or decreasing total sick leave accrual.
Although there is much work left to do, these discussions are showing some promise.

In addition to the above it looks like we will allow virtual basing and vacation sell back. Both are job killers. Before lots of pilots get excited by virtual basing keep in mind the company only wants it for a limited number of widebody international flights to eliminate deadheads.


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