Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2141486)

Anyway, I am satisfied that you are reading thru the lines and I commend you for that.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 2141532)

I have to break from you hear, scambo. With all of Moak's scumbags popping out of the woodwork on Facebook, and now trip7's miraculous salvation, I smell a rat.

If we get a concesssionary TA, and trip7 rails against it, I promise to eat my words. Until then, I consider him attempting to regain his tattered credibility by turning his back on the product he did everything within his power to sell here.

I do agree with you that new guys must have a laser focus on long-term scope.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2141486)

Trip 7, I may owe you an apology. Your last several posts have demonstrated you are not just repeating a mantra. I am both surprised and impressed.

I am aware you have not been here long. For those of us who have been, the ride has not been what was expected.

Our most senior guys, the ones everyone thinks had a storybook career have had the rug pulled out from them many, many times, starting with the B scale. They are approaching a retirement that is a shadow of what they signed up for. The list is much longer but its a start...

The mid pack guys experienced furloughs, bankruptcy, PRP, a decade of stagnation, witnessed the outsourcing of narrow and now widebody jobs, loss of retirement, continued bankruptcy era concessions, etc... Often facilitated by our CBA.

The new guys have the opportunities that none of us endured and the potential for "dream" careers due to the quickening pace of retirements.

My caution to new guys is dont focus on 1-5 years from now. Focus on the next 20-30 years and get smart about scope, your futures depend on it.

Anyway, I am satisfied that you are reading thru the lines and I commend you for that.

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 2141430)

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is.
CC has done more for the pilot group than you could ever imagine since your short time here. CC is a pilot advocate.

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 2141430)

And you're one to talk of narcissism, with nearly 15,000 posts.
Sheez!

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 2141748)

When one doesn't constantly keep changing screen names every time one is deemed irrelevant, the post count can get high.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2141548)

As an aside, I dont really know what Moaks boys think they will accomplish. They are the last group of pilots I ever want to see doing union work again. They are toxic at this point.

In todays environment, their scheme is a failure from the outset. ..

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 2141430)

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is.
CC has done more for the pilot group than you could ever imagine since your short time here. CC is a pilot advocate.
And you're one to talk of narcissism, with nearly 15,000 posts.
Sheez!

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 2141969)

Harwood's missives are mostly just self-serving attempts at rehabilitating his reputation but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be wary. Those guys are always plotting something. Some of the old guard are rumored to have approached their friends in management about working together to help them return to power.
I consider that unlikely. There's no doubt management would love to have the Moakists back, but it would be way too risky to stall the process long enough to see if that happened. Pilot group anger would be explosive by then.

Besides, I think even management probably agrees with your assessment regarding the Moakists:
"They are toxic at this point".

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 2141430)

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is.
CC has done more for the pilot group than you could ever imagine since your short time here. CC is a pilot advocate.
And you're one to talk of narcissism, with nearly 15,000 posts.
Sheez!