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Old 06-12-2016, 11:24 AM
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I dont really understand what you are trying to achieve with this. Are you hoping to get paid to stay home? Are you res by choice? Can you not hold atl?

Booking js isnt a dick move, its a smart one.
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by motof16 View Post
Thanks to all for the comments. I know now why this has been such a difficult issue for me. I've discovered so many unwritten rules (and strongly held opinions).

I'm not opposed to commuting to LC but it seems that would often be practice bleeding. Since it has come up, I'll ask directly:
- Is it a d!ck move to book a jumpseat (first or last flight of the day) in case I get that 12 hour callout? If I know I'm not going to use it, I'd cancel in plenty of time. Non-rev seems so unpredictable!

I do appreciate the opposing viewpoints so keep them coming!
If you think it's worth asking if something is in poor taste, it probably is...at least to someone. You'd be doing it to relieve anxiety about getting to work you MIGHT have to perform. Someone else wouldn't get the seat to relieve anxiety about work they KNOW they have to perform. Your view of canceling "with plenty of time" could be quite different from someone planning his or her commute. Totally legal, though...you wouldn't be the first guy looking out for number one and I can't say I haven't done the same thing. In my case, I booked a jumpseat to get in place to fly when I suspected I would be flying a yellow slip or assigned trip and never had to cancel it. Personally, I think it would be nice if jumpseat to/from work on OTHER than the front/back of a block of days could be done 4.5/2.5 days in advance to give commuting line holders first dibs.

These are only weakly-held opinions. Good luck to you.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
I dont really understand what you are trying to achieve with this. Are you hoping to get paid to stay home? Are you res by choice? Can you not hold atl?

Booking js isnt a dick move, its a smart one.
A reasonable question Sputnik. This isn't about game playing for me. I actually enjoy flying but I'm frustrated to spend the money/time away from family when I'm not working. I also don't want to drive someone with a line to "extreme" commute via FedEx because I'm sitting on a jumpseat they could use. I can't get ATL yet but that's my plan. I also don't anticipate getting a line anytime soon.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
If you think it's worth asking if something is in poor taste, it probably is...at least to someone. You'd be doing it to relieve anxiety about getting to work you MIGHT have to perform. Someone else wouldn't get the seat to relieve anxiety about work they KNOW they have to perform. Your view of canceling "with plenty of time" could be quite different from someone planning his or her commute. Totally legal, though...you wouldn't be the first guy looking out for number one and I can't say I haven't done the same thing. In my case, I booked a jumpseat to get in place to fly when I suspected I would be flying a yellow slip or assigned trip and never had to cancel it. Personally, I think it would be nice if jumpseat to/from work on OTHER than the front/back of a block of days could be done 4.5/2.5 days in advance to give commuting line holders first dibs.

These are only weakly-held opinions. Good luck to you.
Well put Ted74. That's what I had arrived at. Give the line holders 24 hours to put their first dibs in and I'll take the JS that's left (probably still early/late or to the wrong airport).
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by motof16 View Post
Well put Ted74. That's what I had arrived at. Give the line holders 24 hours to put their first dibs in and I'll take the JS that's left (probably still early/late or to the wrong airport).
Im just assuming nyc er is busy. When I was commuting to res I always put a ys in. And reserved JS. I always ended up flying. Unless you think there is a real chance of not flying, I would reserve a js soon as window opens. You have no more or less need than a line holder for it.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:47 PM
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Just don't be that guy that books the last JS out at night....AND the early one the next morning. That will infuriate people!
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:35 PM
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During my stint in NYC last year there were several guys in my crash pad who were commuters to reserve, because they were stuck on reserve. They were some of the most miserable folks I've ever seen.

What about the QOL for those commuting to reserve for international (330 or 765)? Is there much of a difference between domestic and int'l reserve?
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:36 PM
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If you book one jumpseat that gets you to work for your reserve sequence, it is totally good. You have just as much right as the next guy (line holder). Just because you don't know what time you'll be required, doesn't mean you shouldn't have the 10am jumpseat booked on your first day of call.

I think the only issue would be if you are reserving jumpseats everyday you are on call.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot View Post
If you book one jumpseat that gets you to work for your reserve sequence, it is totally good. You have just as much right as the next guy (line holder). Just because you don't know what time you'll be required, doesn't mean you shouldn't have the 10am jumpseat booked on your first day of call.

I think the only issue would be if you are reserving jumpseats everyday you are on call.
I think if you book more than one js another pilot can call the cpo and have one removed on your behalf. Or both.
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Old 06-12-2016, 06:03 PM
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I know on the 320B there is a nyc pilot who dropped his line in nyc and just ws out of base in atlanta. Those of us with gs are none to happy to watch the choice gs go out on a O ws but it's in the pwa right above gs on the ladder.
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