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Falcon7 06-28-2016 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2152085)
The reduction is to the plan. The plan is made approximately 18 months out so we are pulling back the schedule, but you knew that.

Ok, so we aren't shrinking, we're just not growing as much. I was wondering how some could suggest that we are shrinking when we keep increasing the number of pilots on our seniority list.


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2152085)
The entire industry is doing it, that's a good thing known as capacity discipline.

So it's an industry thing, not a contract scope thing, got it. Thanks.


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2152085)
Did you notice the increase capacity at Aeromexico? Our soon to be subsidiary has increased capacity, how do you think that will affect our production balance negotiations? Delta controls it all so... whip meet saw.

It would be nice to have Aeromexico JV language. Certainly, as you suggest, time is not on our side. What is the MEC doing about it?

Purple Drank 06-28-2016 06:57 AM

Falcon7, may I ask in general terms what your role in the last TA was? Thank you.

WhatNow 06-28-2016 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2152085)
The reduction is to the plan. The plan is made approximately 18 months out so we are pulling back the schedule, but you knew that. The entire industry is doing it, that's a good thing known as capacity discipline.

Did you notice the increase capacity at Aeromexico? Our soon to be subsidiary has increased capacity, how do you think that will affect our production balance negotiations? Delta controls it all so... whip meet saw.

I just went off your original statement where you said we were reducing capacity.

JamesBond 06-28-2016 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2152085)
The reduction is to the plan. The plan is made approximately 18 months out so we are pulling back the schedule, but you knew that. The entire industry is doing it, that's a good thing known as capacity discipline.

Did you notice the increase capacity at Aeromexico? Our soon to be subsidiary has increased capacity, how do you think that will affect our production balance negotiations? Delta controls it all so... whip meet saw.

So help me out here. Is AM included in any form of production balance currently? I don't know which is why I am asking. I think you are right about the whip saw part of your post, but until we have an agreement in place that is seemingly what can happen.

Falcon7 06-28-2016 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 2152114)
Falcon7, may I ask in general terms what your role in the last TA was? Thank you.

Yes you may, in general terms an active Delta pilot and ALPA member in good standing.

NERD 06-28-2016 01:39 PM

Ok, how about specific terms. MEC, NC or SME?




Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 2152272)
Yes you may, in general terms an active Delta pilot and ALPA member in good standing.


Hank Kingsley 06-28-2016 01:47 PM

Is Dickson promising top pay, which means pay rates, or top compensation, which includes PS? That would be a break from his past statements. I believe he's got a JD.

capncrunch 06-28-2016 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2152330)
Ok, how about specific terms. MEC, NC or SME?

Don't forget P2P.

scambo1 06-28-2016 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2152330)
Ok, how about specific terms. MEC, NC or SME?

I think you give him too much credit. Just a yes voting surrender monkey. Payrates, payrates, $$$$, look a squirrel.

Viking busdvr 06-28-2016 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2152389)
I think you give him too much credit. Just a yes voting surrender monkey. Payrates, payrates, $$$$, look a squirrel.

That's a nice portrait he uses as an avatar.... I assume it's Benedict Arnold perhaps??😉


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