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The Surface 3 is dead, as experts debate the future of low-end Windows tablets | PCWorld

"I'm not dead yet!"

I heard from a mole on the 4th floor, that the only reason we are getting the Surface 3 is that IT couldn't procure 13,000 Newtons.
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Newtons.......HILARIOUS

On the plus side, it will come pre-loaded with Oregon Trail.

Obviously we don't have IT guys making IT decisions.....

So, if they're dead, that means we'll be getting them soon, right?

Aren't we getting the Surface Pro 3? Full processor, not the wimpy Atom? While I completely buy into the concept of our devices arriving when they are outdated, I think they are better than what's portrayed here.

Long past time to get rid of UHC and Microsoft.

Bluecross Blueshield and IPads.

Oh, and access to the internet like the passengers have had for.......

Bring it up to management. Something something something seattle.

Never going to happen. Microsoft is our largest corporate client and responsible for our SEA expansion. Delta is self insured and pays UHC to do the paperwork, the fact that Richard was working for UHC when he came to Delta cemented that deal.

Now that's good news. I love Oregon Trail.

I heard they will have GPS installed, but no moving map! :rolleyes:

I heard the onboard GPS didn't play nicely with the Jepp software. One of the 737 big-wig check guys was testing the Bad Elf Bluetooth GPS receiver and he said we could be getting them soon. I'm not holding my breath. (But for $150 on Amazon, I have heard they work really well for taxi situational awareness.)

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Although I've seen the gps moving map work really good on surface pro 2 with no problems... forget how. :D

This should surprise no one. The day I receive a Surface 3 is the day they come off the shelves for good.

It has to have better RAM than the current POS. Nothing is slower than the 2, or sadder than Windows RT.

Hopefully you don't get the one with only 2G RAM like we did, Jepp map will crash it for sure.

I don't believe that for a second.

If we went with the VASTLY superior iPad platform and MS got mad, who exactly would they go for? Alaska, who uses iPads too and their discombobulated little network?

If we have to buy them to get the deal then fine, buy them and put them here and get iPads anyway.

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It should definitely be a choice, as we are testing both the ipad air 2, and surface 3 here at endeavor, and the ipad is clearly superior.

I used the iPad with the same jepp software at previous company and it's night and day. iPad was much smoother and faster.

What's up with Apple fans always comparing an Ipad to a Surface with 2GB of memory with fake windows.

How about you compare it to the Surface with an i7 processor, 16GB of memory, and a full operating system. If Delta goes with a Surface 3 with 4GB of memory and a atom processor, I would hardly call that the Surface's fault or a true comparison of what the Surface can do. At a minimum, they should be getting a Surface 3 with 8GB of memory and a i3 processor, otherwise you will see the system bog down.

It is possible to bluetooth gps off a phone with surprising accuracy. Tends to eat the battery, but a lot cheaper than a bad elf

Keeping it simple is why the iPad is better, I'm not a fan of Apple at all, and there is no doubt the surface is more capable, however, I am not typing up business reports, or editing graphics in flight. I do however, need an APP that was originally written for iOS to work as well as possible.

They failed to consider the lowest common denominator. While I have no doubt the MS product has more capabilities, you also have to have more computer skills to unlock those capabilities. Sometimes more skills just to get the damn thing unlocked, period. Ipads are more "pilot proof". Even a Marine can use an Ipad.

I'm not sure how typing business reports is relevant to a Jepp application running well on a device. A surface with 2GB of memory will run worse than an ipad, however, one with a i5-i7 processor and 8GB-16GB will run much better. All you need to do to run a Jepp application on a Surface is to click the program just like you would on an ipad. Should I have said 'app' instead though, much simpler than 'program' ;)

Plus I would rather carry around one device that can do everything that two devices can. Until Ipads start running full IOS, I don't see how the ipad can even come close to what the benefits of what a decent spec Surface can do.

How does it get any more simpler than clicking on the Jepp application on the main screen? Isn't that the exact same thing the ipad does?

Sounds like you've never had to reboot yours at a critical time. Lucky you

I've had a frozen ipad at a critical time, your point being?

Like I said, a Surface with fake windows and 2GB of memory will cause that. There are Surfaces with 16GB of memory and i7 processors.

Yes, and that model is $1800, the air 2 is about $500. $1800 is too much to spend to not have a dedicated GPU.

I get your point though, so I will rephrase, the iPad is the best for what the company is willing to pay for.

Surface with 16GB and i7 is a completely different comparison in terms of functionality, so of course it will be much more expensive, but you would still be better off with a Surface 3 Pro i5 with 8GB for $1000.

Until the ipad comes out with full IOS, I don't see how you can fully compare the two since all of the Surfaces post-Surface 2 RT run full Windows 10. Unless Delta runs all of its software on ipad only capable devices, the Surface with a full operating system will be much more useful to them.

I don't understand why Apple fans love their philosophy. Wouldn't you rather have your ipad be your ipad+macbook? Why would you want to carry around 2 things when you would only have to carry around 1.

So far the Surface Book is the best use of both worlds. https://www.microsoftstore.com/store...ctID.325716000

With a non-jailbroken iPhone? I can't even get the two to get a consistent Bluetooth connection at all.

Can you get me one? Mine locks, freezes, runs hotter than a wh%#@ in church. At least Delta has MS as a client.

One big detractor of the iPad is that there is no USB port on it and Apple refuses to put one in.

Holy Cow you blasphemer!!!!! Doncha know that iPads are the best thing since the invention of the turbine engine? You fixin' to get kilt all up in here.

We tested both, the iPad was by far the best, and then we chose Surface3. The devise runs ok but jepp crashes or locks up on it regularly. It's also been more difficult to hot spot for me with an iPhone. However, I do like the full computing capability for downloading programs rather than just being limited to the App Store. iPad needs computing as well as a USB port.

Which Surface are you comparing the ipad too? Was it tested against the Surface 3 with 4GB of memory and an atom processor?

I wonder how it would perform with a Surface 3 or 4 that has 8-16GB of memory and a i3-i7 processor.

Steve Jobs was a douchenozzle.


How's that for blasphemy? Now it's time to run away!

While a minor issue, the iPad also has some better mounting options.

FLIGHT OPS NEWSLETTER:

"Pilots may have noticed recent media reports that Microsoft is ceasing production of Surface 3 tablets. Microsoft has confirmed that while customer demand for Surface 3 has been high, inventory is limited - and manufacturing will end in December 2016. The discontinuation of the Surface 3 is a fairly typical part of the product cycle as new technology becomes available."

Yeah, demand is high, that's why they are discontinuing the product. What a load.

They are discontinuing the Surface 3 with the ARM processor and 4GB of memory. Surface 3 Pro was discontinued a while ago when the Surface 4 came out. Basically Microsoft is finally realizing to stop making fake Windows Surfaces (RT) and those with crappy processors (ARM).

Soooooooooooooooo.................what are we getting?

Denny