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Old 07-08-2016, 03:26 PM
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Is it April 1st?
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:33 PM
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Is it April 1st?
It's always April 1st around here during negotiations.
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:38 PM
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Wow. Did management just declare war on the pilot group or what?
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
At 21% profit sharing, with the 401k match backed out, it's

12.5/0/0/0
It's less than that, don't forget the PTIX carve out.
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:45 PM
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If the negotiators already granted concessions before getting this pay rate, they need to be fired immediately.
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddie View Post
Sounds to me like DL passengers might want to look elsewhere for an uninterrupted holiday travel season.

My vote will be NO if we are not awarded top of the industry pay/benefits rates. DL has profiteered for more than a decade on our mediocre contracts while enjoying record profits and industry awards that we front line employees ensure by operational excellence.

Let me make this clear, mother Delta is not going to take care of us like in the old days. It is up to US to demand what we are worth and consequently, deal with whatever we as a group are willing to accept. It's a business deal ladies and gentlemen, not a warm fuzzy family relationship. Ed and his group will take the last penny that we do not claim. Claim every penny and if the next TA is lacking in any way, you owe it to yourselves and your fellow colleges to vote NO. If you decide to accept less than you are worth, it falls on you, not the company as they just did another outstanding job of exploiting our profession - AGAIN.

Stay strong (and thirsty) my friends.

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Our situation is no different than other BUSINESSES where the compensation is negotiable - DAL is not going to pay us a dime more than they have to despite expecting us (and us doing) more than is required out of the job. DAL has a lot of people that once they get to work do everything and more to get the job done and it is time to be rewarded for that and stop looking at it emotionally (as in the old DAL is a family perspective - those days left with Ron Allen's CEO days). We've gotten this far so let's get what we deserve.
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vyperdriver View Post
I wonder if guys and gals with less than 2 yrs or so on property will think about leaving for other opportunities if this turns into a clown act. Considering the number of new hire pilots required, especially in the next 2 to 3 years, the pilot shortage could hit Delta far harder than others. Hopefully a positive outcome will show sooner than later. I personally really enjoy it here, but I know 7 guys who went elsewhere after being offered training dates, 1 left after indoc!
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:14 PM
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"Bye Felecia" should be the only response


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Old 07-08-2016, 04:23 PM
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Will somebody explain the part about "excluding management compensation from PTIX?"

Also explain how you come up with 12.5/0/0/0?

Honest questions. I was barely on property during TA15.
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:24 PM
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Sent my thoughts to rep, I'd recommend everyone do the same.
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