Most Powerful DALPA Leaders On Virtual Basing
07-26-2016 | 06:42 AM
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OK, but positive space and hotels. No longer have the credit. 777 was mentioned above. Didn't see it happening. SA is ocean crossing, 3 degrees south of the equator or 8 hours.
07-26-2016 | 06:52 AM
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Any flight to S. America south of 3.5S latitude comes under the ocean crossing definition. the MCO-GRU flights are also ocean crossings, thus would not be VB eligible.
07-26-2016 | 06:55 AM
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Right, so they're targeting domestic not international wide body. Positive space, hotels. Saving on credit and base start up costs.
07-26-2016 | 07:20 AM
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They want commuters to look at this as a chance to get PS if they have to commute anyway. Win-win for a tiny percentage of the pilot group. The rest get to have their bid package picked through and rewritten to pull out every last bit of credit. Bean counters get another huge bonus (taken out of our PS no doubt), and our QOL goes down even more.
NO. There is NO reason for us to even start down this path. They can open a base in any city they desire. We do not need to fix this problem for them.
NO. There is NO reason for us to even start down this path. They can open a base in any city they desire. We do not need to fix this problem for them.
07-26-2016 | 07:56 AM
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Makes me wonder where the real "value" of a VB is to the company. A piece of the puzzle is missing and I don't trust our NC......
07-26-2016 | 08:15 AM
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The details are important, but if the union can turn it off, this seems like much ado about nothing.
07-26-2016 | 08:21 AM
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I'm with you- particularly since the co will be obliged to cover hotel for all on call days and pos space (not sure if this is VB and TDY, or just TDY). There are maybe three areas of the country where the co could reliably get enough pilots to virtual base. Greater MCO area, DFW, and potentially CVG come to mind for me. The calculus has changed on this since the TA last summer where pos space was not included, so potentially more enticing to commuters, but as a test under the veto of the union- I see this ending up just like the "pickup open reserve days" option the co wanted a few LOAs ago- it's there, just not worth the cost and effort to use it.
The details are important, but if the union can turn it off, this seems like much ado about nothing.
The details are important, but if the union can turn it off, this seems like much ado about nothing.
Of course it is much ado about nothing. When has that ever made a difference to the SM crowd? I'm still waiting on more details on both VB and TDY before I formulate an opinion. Very tentatively, it seems VBs are not to be trusted, but TDY could be a good thing, with the right protections, which we seem to have.
07-26-2016 | 09:24 AM
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The real value is getting the camel's nose in the tent. Next thing you know we'll have a side letter allowing just a few ocean crossing pairs...and then one allowing them all.
07-26-2016 | 09:56 AM
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