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vyperdriver 07-26-2016 09:29 AM

I guess my question to the peanut gallery, is other than some legal representation every now and then that pans out, and some national good ALPA has helped honcho (KCM comes to mind) Nearly every Capt I've flown with over the 1.5 yrs bemoans their membership in ALPA. As near as I can tell, over the last decade plus, ALPA has overseen the continued degradation of the pilots contract ranging anywhere from benefits, QOL, and pay. It is but by the grace of the almighty and the fact management didnt see the types of profits we have now that profit sharing makes up for some of the incomes lost by those of you that sacrificed so much. I for one appreciate all that the pilot group gave up so I have a job today, but I cant for the life of me understand the nearly blind faith in an organization which has overseen the losses you have suffered and continue to suffer, without the serious consideration of replacing the union. If your medical Dr was to diagnose and treat you with the success of DALPA, most would shop for a different Dr.

Banzai 07-26-2016 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 2168507)
Year 2000 / DAL profit margin around 6% / DAL profit around 1.3 Billion and the result in 2001 was C2K.

Year 2016 / DAL profit margin around 19% / DAL profit around 8 Billion and the result is we need to give up jobs just to hit the pay rates in 2004.

This should be the only point we present to the mediator. Everything else seems superfluous next to this.

Jughead135 07-26-2016 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 2168511)
If your medical Dr was to diagnose and treat you with the success of DALPA, most would be dead.

FTFY....

filler

Turbo1 07-26-2016 10:30 AM

ALPA must go.........lather, rinse, REPEAT

MtEverest 07-26-2016 01:38 PM

I have to laugh (it's a sad laugh) after our history of pi$$ing away quality of life and being laughed at by management for over a decade when people say "I don't want to change horses midstream".

Then we end up with another concession laden TA that's pushed through. Everybody learns to work harder and distract themselves from the disappointment until the next contract when they don't want to change horses midstream.

More DALPA insiders march off to national or are put on special committees sucking the FPL teet. Rinse, repeat. It's insane.

Turbo1 07-26-2016 02:46 PM

Malone was no good the first time around.......so why is everyone surprised now? ALPA must go........

MtEverest 07-26-2016 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 2168716)
Malone was no good the first time around.......so why is everyone surprised now? ALPA must go........

I was for Malone. That is no longer the case. His stock went down 60% when he stopped using "RESTORATION". Now, based upon what I am seeing and hearing, his stock is similar to DAL the day after BREXIT. I should know this but who was the other guy who ran against him?

Herkflyr 07-26-2016 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 2168716)
Malone was no good the first time around.......so why is everyone surprised now? ALPA must go........

He was outstanding the first time around and is doing his damndest this time, despite the sabotage from the perpetual whiner crowd. "ALPA must go" ad infinitum. Is that the best you have?

Pushta Ailsouth 07-26-2016 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 2168511)
I guess my question to the peanut gallery, is other than some legal representation every now and then that pans out, and some national good ALPA has helped honcho (KCM comes to mind) Nearly every Capt I've flown with over the 1.5 yrs bemoans their membership in ALPA. As near as I can tell, over the last decade plus, ALPA has overseen the continued degradation of the pilots contract ranging anywhere from benefits, QOL, and pay. It is but by the grace of the almighty and the fact management didnt see the types of profits we have now that profit sharing makes up for some of the incomes lost by those of you that sacrificed so much. I for one appreciate all that the pilot group gave up so I have a job today, but I cant for the life of me understand the nearly blind faith in an organization which has overseen the losses you have suffered and continue to suffer, without the serious consideration of replacing the union. If your medical Dr was to diagnose and treat you with the success of DALPA, most would shop for a different Dr.

Im not sure I would give much credit for KCM to ALPA...

Karnak 07-27-2016 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Pushta Ailsouth (Post 2168889)
Im not sure I would give much credit for KCM to ALPA...

Can you tell us who you believe deserves the credit for KCM?


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