No money in the Pacific
08-11-2016 | 12:20 PM
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No money in the Pacific
Must be no $$$ in the Pacific either.
http://boosting-united-airlines-at-s...cisco-hub.html
How Boeing 787-9s Are Boosting United Airlines at San Francisco Hub.
United Airlines (UAL) says the continuing rapid international growth at its San Francisco hub is being fueled by its newest airplane, the Boeing (BA) 787-9.
Since March, United has added non-stop flights from San Francisco to Hangzhou and Xian in China as well as to Tel Aviv, Singapore, and Auckland, New Zealand. Of the five, four are flown with the 787-9, while Xian is flown with a 787-8, a smaller airplane with a shorter range.
Boeing introduced the 787-8 in 2011. United put 219 seats on the aircraft, which has a range of 8,458 statute miles. Boeing delivered United's first 787-9 in 2014. The carrier put 252 seats on its 787-9, which has a range of 8,786 miles. United has 18 787-9s and 12 787-8s
"The poster child for the 787-9 is Singapore," said Brian Znotins, United vice president of network. "No other airplane in our fleet can fly that route."
The 8,446-mile flight, which began in June, is the longest 787 route in the world, as well as the longest scheduled flight by any U.S. carrier. Previously a bigger airplane was required to carry sufficient fuel, but a bigger airplane would have been too big for the route.
"As a network planner, my goal is to give business travelers back time in their lives," Znotins said. "I believe business travelers want to be home for their kids' soccer practice, and if I can get you to and from Singapore non-stop [instead of with a connection], I just gave back two or three hours."
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http://boosting-united-airlines-at-s...cisco-hub.html
How Boeing 787-9s Are Boosting United Airlines at San Francisco Hub.
United Airlines (UAL) says the continuing rapid international growth at its San Francisco hub is being fueled by its newest airplane, the Boeing (BA) 787-9.
Since March, United has added non-stop flights from San Francisco to Hangzhou and Xian in China as well as to Tel Aviv, Singapore, and Auckland, New Zealand. Of the five, four are flown with the 787-9, while Xian is flown with a 787-8, a smaller airplane with a shorter range.
Boeing introduced the 787-8 in 2011. United put 219 seats on the aircraft, which has a range of 8,458 statute miles. Boeing delivered United's first 787-9 in 2014. The carrier put 252 seats on its 787-9, which has a range of 8,786 miles. United has 18 787-9s and 12 787-8s
"The poster child for the 787-9 is Singapore," said Brian Znotins, United vice president of network. "No other airplane in our fleet can fly that route."
The 8,446-mile flight, which began in June, is the longest 787 route in the world, as well as the longest scheduled flight by any U.S. carrier. Previously a bigger airplane was required to carry sufficient fuel, but a bigger airplane would have been too big for the route.
"As a network planner, my goal is to give business travelers back time in their lives," Znotins said. "I believe business travelers want to be home for their kids' soccer practice, and if I can get you to and from Singapore non-stop [instead of with a connection], I just gave back two or three hours."
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08-11-2016 | 01:08 PM
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It's almost like we work for an air line that wants to crater. Do everything to get the operation and moral humming along, cash out stock, F things up, destroy morale and customer good will, change management, start the cycle again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
08-11-2016 | 04:16 PM
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08-12-2016 | 04:28 AM
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If you remove almost, I think youre right.
During restructuring, it was viewed that Delta was the vehicle to promote various corrolary vendors like american express, coke, etc...the core business was an advertising tool...with a captive audience. If you read the vendor list of exit financing backers, you will see what I mean.
Now, we are witness to unbridled short term value extraction...the vampires are sucking the blood. The question is when does the airline get an IV?
Also, the new model is other airline ownership, schedule integration, domestic feed, risk mitigation, codeshare, JV.
As a pilot, you have to ask yourself what do these do to our leverage and what do they do to our/my career potential? Cutting into profit sharing in any way absolutely kills any future benefit a Delta pilot can hope to extract!
08-12-2016 | 08:44 AM
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You said it was "almost like"
If you remove almost, I think youre right.
During restructuring, it was viewed that Delta was the vehicle to promote various corrolary vendors like american express, coke, etc...the core business was an advertising tool...with a captive audience. If you read the vendor list of exit financing backers, you will see what I mean.
Now, we are witness to unbridled short term value extraction...the vampires are sucking the blood. The question is when does the airline get an IV?
Also, the new model is other airline ownership, schedule integration, domestic feed, risk mitigation, codeshare, JV.
As a pilot, you have to ask yourself what do these do to our leverage and what do they do to our/my career potential? Cutting into profit sharing in any way absolutely kills any future benefit a Delta pilot can hope to extract!
If you remove almost, I think youre right.
During restructuring, it was viewed that Delta was the vehicle to promote various corrolary vendors like american express, coke, etc...the core business was an advertising tool...with a captive audience. If you read the vendor list of exit financing backers, you will see what I mean.
Now, we are witness to unbridled short term value extraction...the vampires are sucking the blood. The question is when does the airline get an IV?
Also, the new model is other airline ownership, schedule integration, domestic feed, risk mitigation, codeshare, JV.
As a pilot, you have to ask yourself what do these do to our leverage and what do they do to our/my career potential? Cutting into profit sharing in any way absolutely kills any future benefit a Delta pilot can hope to extract!
08-12-2016 | 10:18 AM
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So now Delta is slowly withdrawing from Tokyo? No more Narita JFK, Osaka, and Bangkok. 
Delta Begins to Further Dismantle Its Tokyo/Narita Hub | Cranky Flier
Delta Begins to Further Dismantle Its Tokyo/Narita Hub | Cranky Flier
08-13-2016 | 02:46 PM
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You said it was "almost like"
If you remove almost, I think youre right.
During restructuring, it was viewed that Delta was the vehicle to promote various corrolary vendors like american express, coke, etc...the core business was an advertising tool...with a captive audience. If you read the vendor list of exit financing backers, you will see what I mean.
Now, we are witness to unbridled short term value extraction...the vampires are sucking the blood. The question is when does the airline get an IV?
Also, the new model is other airline ownership, schedule integration, domestic feed, risk mitigation, codeshare, JV.
As a pilot, you have to ask yourself what do these do to our leverage and what do they do to our/my career potential? Cutting into profit sharing in any way absolutely kills any future benefit a Delta pilot can hope to extract!
If you remove almost, I think youre right.
During restructuring, it was viewed that Delta was the vehicle to promote various corrolary vendors like american express, coke, etc...the core business was an advertising tool...with a captive audience. If you read the vendor list of exit financing backers, you will see what I mean.
Now, we are witness to unbridled short term value extraction...the vampires are sucking the blood. The question is when does the airline get an IV?
Also, the new model is other airline ownership, schedule integration, domestic feed, risk mitigation, codeshare, JV.
As a pilot, you have to ask yourself what do these do to our leverage and what do they do to our/my career potential? Cutting into profit sharing in any way absolutely kills any future benefit a Delta pilot can hope to extract!
Actual delta employees are the big losers. If you want a stake in the game we need more profit sharing or stock options. Not less.
Trading for rates now is ridiculously short sighted.....and you always have to wonder why the CO wants something. And it ain't the red herring Wall Street or BOD. Pay attention folks.
08-13-2016 | 04:22 PM
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That guy Znotins they quote in the article is like an airline Rain Man. Every few months they put a couple of videos up online of him explaining the nuts and bolts of United's route structure and network planning or they'll send him out to answer questions at new captain charm school and its pure logic, information, and competence.
I'm consistently left asking myself, "How did we get this guy?"
I'm consistently left asking myself, "How did we get this guy?"
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