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TransWorld 10-08-2019 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2900258)
i felt the same way when my job cleaning stables was under threat from the horseless carriage in 1907

My great-grandfather got a new sales rep position about that time for buggy whips. Seriously.

Denny Crane 10-08-2019 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2900537)
I was reading a freight rail report. They are all twisted up about dropping the conductor. Just one guy running a 16,000 ft. train. Sounds lonely.

What could go wrong!?!:eek:

Denny

Vincent Chase 10-09-2019 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2900465)
That’s a lot of words

Yet no refutation on your part. Interesting. Now back to reading more informed posts.

crazyjaydawg 10-09-2019 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2900537)
I was reading a freight rail report. They are all twisted up about dropping the conductor. Just one guy running a 16,000 ft. train. Sounds lonely.



Rail companies have been trying to eliminate the conductor since at least the early 90s. Now we shouldn’t put our heads in the sand over the issue, but if it takes railways 30+ years (and counting) to go “single pilot” where they operate in really only one dimension, then I’m thinking my kids will be retired before it takes over aviation.

Also remember the first aircraft without an FE were certified in the 1960s and FE positions were still prevalent well into the 2000s.

I realize that it’s always a threat from the c-suite that loves to eliminate jobs, but realistically there are still a lot of obstacles to creating single pilot ops.

Vincent Chase 10-09-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 2900890)
Rail companies have been trying to eliminate the conductor since at least the early 90s. Now we shouldn’t put our heads in the sand over the issue, but if it takes railways 30+ years (and counting) to go “single pilot” where they operate in really only one dimension, then I’m thinking my kids will be retired before it takes over aviation.

Also remember the first aircraft without an FE were certified in the 1960s and FE positions were still prevalent well into the 2000s.

I realize that it’s always a threat from the c-suite that loves to eliminate jobs, but realistically there are still a lot of obstacles to creating single pilot ops.

And think about the public perception knowing only one pilot was there for a transcon. I certainly wouldn't want to be in the back with that knowledge.

FogSkier 10-09-2019 11:49 AM

1. Freight train engineers contribute a lot less to the total cost of freight trains than we do to airliners

2. There isn’t a shortage of young engineers. There is a shortage of pilots

Necessity is the mother of all invention

tomgoodman 10-09-2019 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2900537)
I was reading a freight rail report. They are all twisted up about dropping the conductor. Just one guy running a 16,000 ft. train. Sounds lonely.

They plan to dual-qual a hobo.

https://www.sbsun.com/wp-content/upl...4352.jpg?w=810

theUpsideDown 10-09-2019 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2901012)

I think that'll be Lance captain hobo

RAH RAH REE 10-09-2019 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by FogSkier (Post 2900997)
1. Freight train engineers contribute a lot less to the total cost of freight trains than we do to airliners

2. There isn’t a shortage of young engineers. There is a shortage of pilots

Necessity is the mother of all invention

If I hear one more time there is a shortage of pilots my head is going to explode. Especially at the major level. If nobody wants to come fly for XYZ airlines for substandard payrates they they will just have to raise them until people will. Or find cheaper labor but that usually dries up eventually.

badflaps 10-09-2019 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2901012)

Please, these are actionable rail companions.


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