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Yes. 3b4 exists and might have helped. Might. It certainly wouldn't help in the event of the company losing money. I'll take the same amount (or more in the case of c12) of money guaranteed.
Also, as you state, I highly doubt that UAL or AMR would have gotten those rates absent our C12. Further, if management knew giving the non-cons a raise meant they'd trigger 3b4, I highly doubt they'd have been so free about it.
Your point is well-made, and I appreciate it. I just disagree that it would have happened in the way you and the other poster who mentioned it surmised.
Again, I'll take the guarantee instead of the "hope" every time. My memory is not so short as to believe that profits last forever.
you will take the 'guarantee'? Originally Posted by D Mantooth
Thank you. Finally an argument that uses math and contractual language. Yes. 3b4 exists and might have helped. Might. It certainly wouldn't help in the event of the company losing money. I'll take the same amount (or more in the case of c12) of money guaranteed.
Also, as you state, I highly doubt that UAL or AMR would have gotten those rates absent our C12. Further, if management knew giving the non-cons a raise meant they'd trigger 3b4, I highly doubt they'd have been so free about it.
Your point is well-made, and I appreciate it. I just disagree that it would have happened in the way you and the other poster who mentioned it surmised.
Again, I'll take the guarantee instead of the "hope" every time. My memory is not so short as to believe that profits last forever.
you mean like the 'guarantee' by alpa experts the pension was secure and would never be terminated?
your camp wouldn't recognize real economic value if it slapped you in the face.
this is the airline business. there are no guarantees....and anybody trying to sell one should be recognized for snake oil salesman they are...all of our compensation, and very employment, is at risk....at all times.