Southwest pilots never took a paycut and got full retro for even deceased pilots with Profit Sharing and 401K on top. UPS pilots have an unmatched pension and DC. Oh, and their vacation is light years above ours.

Yeah, I think they did just fine.

SWA got full retro?

How is that relevant?

To be even more fair - How long were they in negotiations before they started mediation?

Not saying we are close to anything but not exactly the same scenario.

Scoop

Stop playing dumb, Tsquare.

You know it's relevant as their compensation and retirement is far better than the DL pilot group's.

You keep saying this even though you know it is not true. They may have gotten what they were asking for, but they did not get the full percentage of their snap up raise going back to the start of the negotiations....but like I said you know this but think that somehow saying it over and over and over will make any difference.

So they didn't. The TA will come down to more than section 3 and pay. That concept seems lost on those that brought us TA version 1, and those that voted yes for it.

Quit playing dense.

I'm not playing dense. I want to know what the relevance is to our contract negotiations. Connect the dots for me because I don't see it. Do it via PM if you wish.

By that qualifier it should be MILES ahead of ours. Are they? In every category they should be 46%???? ahead of us? Are they?