Maybe we'll give them that next time, in exchange for industry average rates.

There's an infinite number of examples of the company doing something stupid that has no cost advantage. Why do they DH crews to SEA to fly SEA-ICN, SEA-LHR, etc? Bottom line, every base will lose time with VBs. And the "no ocean crossing first leg" rule will be the first to go by surrender monkey LOA.

I also add it to the NO column. These are ridiculous. However its a points deduction and not a poison pill because we still have the unilateral power to eliminate them. And we should. If we MEMRAT this, we would start a ground swell movement to stop these stupid things ASAP.

Its a concession, but how many concessions come with the pilot's ability to single handedly eliminate them as soon as we want? So let's just do that if this MEMRATs.

Do you have a crystal ball? Pretty early to be predicting what *will* happen.

Also why don't you call the crew planners and ask those questions? While we could stock a library with the history of stupid DAL decisions, often this stuff is done far beyond the scope of you and I posting on message boards. Sometimes there is even a rationale behind it.

Crew resources has posted the answer to his question several times in their letters.

What would the procedure be to eliminate these bases if they are bad? Is it only at a mec level or do we get a vote at the end of the year? This is one of the only items so far of this ta that I am nervous about - not enough to vote no but I would like to have a veto if it sucks

Whats wrong with this? We used to do this in a C-5 all time. Pick up army stuff stateside and then hop it over the pond to Spain and then downrange. I don't see the problem.

I agree: this is an area that requires more clarity.

I see there are volunteers (good luck to those poor souls) here logging these sorts of questions, and for me this is probably #1.

If the TA MEMRATs we immediately put pressure on MEC to pull down the VB's and TDYs. Easy.

Yeah, like THAT will happen.