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Originally Posted by Bainite
(Post 2237167)
Guys are saying that, but my bet is they will fly more after the raise. "Gee look how much more I can make this month with just a couple of white slips! " They'll tell themselves they're piling up cash so they can retire early, but they'll go to 65, or whatever the new max becomes. We're pilots, man. It's what we do.
It's right up there with I'm quitting at 55. |
I'm planning to able to leave at 58. The key is putting yourself in that position so you have choices. If I am able to leave at 58 I am also able to take SILs or drop the trips I don't want(maybe that's my entire month.)
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I was present for this portion of the road show in NYC. The way VB works is the size of the VB is limited by BOTH the desires of the company AND the number of volunteers for that particular VB for that particular bid period. If the Company 'tricks' us for a year, then turns it into a POS program, people will not volunteer for the VBs. They will then die. Regardless of what the company wants or the MEC decides, we the pilots can effectively kill the program at any time.
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Originally Posted by waldo135
(Post 2238182)
I was present for this portion of the road show in NYC. The way VB works is the size of the VB is limited by BOTH the desires of the company AND the number of volunteers for that particular VB for that particular bid period. If the Company 'tricks' us for a year, then turns it into a POS program, people will not volunteer for the VBs. They will then die. Regardless of what the company wants or the MEC decides, we the pilots can effectively kill the program at any time.
Sometimes the purpose of our CBA is to protect us from ourselves. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 2238697)
Not really. The point is they will give some goodies to a few pilots in order to reduce overall pilot jobs. As long as the individual goodies continue, there will always be pilots who bid it. Remember trip parking? :roll eyes:
Sometimes the purpose of our CBA is to protect us from ourselves. They are also calculating that other areas of the contract will add pilot jobs. |
Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2238136)
I'm planning to able to leave at 58. The key is putting yourself in that position so you have choices. If I am able to leave at 58 I am also able to take SILs or drop the trips I don't want(maybe that's my entire month.)
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 2238700)
I think the union is already calculating that VB's will cost pilot jobs.
They are also calculating that other areas of the contract will add pilot jobs. My point is that its a job costing negative, but in this case its one that we can unilaterally pull down. I think its a no brainer that we do so. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 2238740)
I agree with both of those statements, and I'm not saying vote no because of VB's.
My point is that its a job costing negative, but in this case its one that we can unilaterally pull down. I think its a no brainer that we do so. |
It's really just the commuters versus the residents. Eventually this will come to a head, and we will see a vote at the MEC to decide the matter.
I say kill it. |
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