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Old 01-14-2017 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
More unpaid time learning something new for Delta.

I know I'm whining but I seem to be putting in a lot of time outside working, learning new PBS, contract etc. I guess I need to bid more 30hr layovers. Did I mention training by memo really ****es me off? Well, it does. Rant over.
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Old 01-14-2017 | 09:01 PM
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You can't fight stupid. I give. Carry on.
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Old 01-14-2017 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
More unpaid time learning something new for Delta.

I know I'm whining but I seem to be putting in a lot of time outside working, learning new PBS, contract etc. I guess I need to bid more 30hr layovers. Did I mention training by memo really ****es me off? Well, it does. Rant over.
You are correct that we should be paid for significant changes like this. It needs to be codified in the contract, and changing the CBA won't fix that.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 05:41 AM
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So , being a Easy bid guy - I decided its time to move up to delta's bidding system , if you go to deltas web site and download the latest bidding software - its a navtech pbs system that locks up all the time - I smarted up and watched a video .... it looked nothing like navtech . its a navblue web based set up.
Just to be sure I read the bulletins and they all describe navblue , but using the latest links in the bulletins I get navtech downloads .?. I am pretty sure my effort shud be to learn the navblue system .
So - I am assuming (I know) that the web based navblue is the one that will be able to be used on the surface 3 and offline for constructing a bid in the future ?.
anyone else with this mensa based conumdrum ?
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Old 01-17-2017 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish on
Try using "edit" you can only add things not remove anything.
It doesn't know where our layovers are.
I have more than 15 "errors" that I found in the first 30 minutes.
"analyze" is a complete joke.
Three different views show Feb as a 28 day month, a 29 day month and a 30 day month.
We are the guinea pigs on this. Delta is the launch customer for this turd. Why didn't they just copy/pay Easybid and improve it.
Did you send these issues to the PBS committee? They're open to constructive criticism and are pretty fast to reply with your concerns.

Originally Posted by erk13
You can't fight stupid. I give. Carry on.
Is it not stupid to buy a product to help with something you don't need help doing? Fighting change just because it's a change is stupid.

Originally Posted by Gander
So , being a Easy bid guy - I decided its time to move up to delta's bidding system , if you go to deltas web site and download the latest bidding software - its a navtech pbs system that locks up all the time - I smarted up and watched a video .... it looked nothing like navtech . its a navblue web based set up.
Just to be sure I read the bulletins and they all describe navblue , but using the latest links in the bulletins I get navtech downloads .?. I am pretty sure my effort shud be to learn the navblue system .
So - I am assuming (I know) that the web based navblue is the one that will be able to be used on the surface 3 and offline for constructing a bid in the future ?.
anyone else with this mensa based conumdrum ?
Navblue is what you want. You can change the link on the PBS button on the "my tools" page of Deltanet. This is the link you want...

https://deltapilotbids.delta.com/webapp/

I think that's what you're asking.

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Old 01-17-2017 | 06:37 AM
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Navblue is what you want. You can changed the link on the PBS button on the "my tools" page of Deltanet. This is the link you want...

https://deltapilotbids.delta.com/webapp/

I think that's what you're asking.[/QUOTE]

It is and thanks - I will pass on the loco link info
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Old 03-05-2017 | 07:41 AM
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Glad to see it's not just me.....
I always used the previous PHP based version of PBS , typically at home and on a high speed connection and sometimes on a layover with my Macbook.
I wrote the PBS person about a couple things.
I'm done. They just want to ram a square peg in round hole.
To me it appears they don't want to hear it....

I get the concept about needing to learn the new interface etc etc bla bla, but I'm no turnip off the cart and come with a decade of experience maintaining an e-commerce site - you know the type where if grandpa can't understand the checkout screens you LOSE SALES AND MONEY....
Previously beta tested actually alpha and beta a new very successful order management business application....

With that said the new PBS is a very nice beta imo.

Please let me know if you hear of any formal avenue of bug reports or functionality suggestions beyond just emailing some ALPA PBS person.
Not going to waste my time otherwise - done stick a fork in me.
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Old 03-05-2017 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrett
Glad to see it's not just me.....
I always used the previous PHP based version of PBS , typically at home and on a high speed connection and sometimes on a layover with my Macbook.
I wrote the PBS person about a couple things.
I'm done. They just want to ram a square peg in round hole.
To me it appears they don't want to hear it....

I get the concept about needing to learn the new interface etc etc bla bla, but I'm no turnip off the cart and come with a decade of experience maintaining an e-commerce site - you know the type where if grandpa can't understand the checkout screens you LOSE SALES AND MONEY....
Previously beta tested actually alpha and beta a new very successful order management business application....

With that said the new PBS is a very nice beta imo.

Please let me know if you hear of any formal avenue of bug reports or functionality suggestions beyond just emailing some ALPA PBS person.
Not going to waste my time otherwise - done stick a fork in me.
You need to write your Reps and let them know.

Nu
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Old 03-05-2017 | 09:50 AM
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I hate the new PBS. It kind of reminds me of the IVR system we have now. Some desk dweller said hey this would be cool but it's not functional.
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Old 03-05-2017 | 10:36 AM
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The interface should be intuitive where a novice should be able to log on and put in a simple bid........IMO........this is not.

Anything that needs notepad after notepad, webinar after webinar, and YouTube video after YouTube video to explain how to use it is going to cause a lot of problems.....

Denny
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