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Old 02-10-2017, 07:53 AM
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Thought I'd start a new discussion on the notepad describing the options with the VEBA.

After reading the notepad, I'm leaning towards option one because it allows one to adjust how much money goes into the VEBA (above the $1 per flight hour minimum) by adjusting how much money is personally contributed to ones retirement.

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where is option 3 no veba period
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where is option 3 no veba period
Honest question. Did you read the notepad? Quote from the notepad:

In the telephone poll and the web-based survey, there are two possible structures for the PRV in terms of funding options, and you will be asked to indicate which of these two options you prefer or whether you would prefer that no PRV be set up at all.


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I have absolutely no desire for a VEBA. With all the unforeseen changes that the new Trump administration is proposing, why are we hell bent on addressing anything to do with healthcare now? Take a breather and try to fix some small stuff like DH and nonrev to back of the bus (or maybe just become a functioning union, on the same page with no more recalls)
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Honest question. Did you read the notepad? Quote from the notepad:

In the telephone poll and the web-based survey, there are two possible structures for the PRV in terms of funding options, and you will be asked to indicate which of these two options you prefer or whether you would prefer that no PRV be set up at all.


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yes i did. However, the way the polling is going to come out is going to be geared towards options 1 and 2, and not mention not having a veba at all
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Originally Posted by bluto13 View Post
I have absolutely no desire for a VEBA. With all the unforeseen changes that the new Trump administration is proposing, why are we hell bent on addressing anything to do with healthcare now? Take a breather and try to fix some small stuff like DH and nonrev to back of the bus (or maybe just become a functioning union, on the same page with no more recalls)
While I agree with your desire to improve the other areas and I understand your point about the unforeseen changes/repeal of the ACA, the bottom line is that there will be healthcare costs in retirement. I don't think being required to put a dollar per flight hour into a PRV would be a hardship and would give those who want to contribute more the option to do so.

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yes i did. However, the way the polling is going to come out is going to be geared towards options 1 and 2, and not mention not having a veba at all
Certainly it will be geared towards options 1 or 2 simply because if you choose the no veba option, there are really no other survey questions they can ask.....are there?

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A question I have----Can we use VEBA dollars to purchase supplemental health insurance when we transition to Medicare.
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A question I have----Can we use VEBA dollars to purchase supplemental health insurance when we transition to Medicare.
We have had our VEBA (We call it RHA or Retiree Health Account) since 2014. It's the ultimate no tax retirement vehicle. Not taxed going in, no tax on gains, not taxed coming out.

Here's a paste from our R&I webpage.

you may use amounts in your RHA to pay for Eligible Medical Expenses under Section 213 of the Internal Revenue Code, including medical bills, prescription drugs, health insurance premiums, and long- term care insurance premiums.

Yes supplemental insurance is a qualified use.
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Originally Posted by bluto13 View Post
I have absolutely no desire for a VEBA. With all the unforeseen changes that the new Trump administration is proposing, why are we hell bent on addressing anything to do with healthcare now? Take a breather and try to fix some small stuff like DH and nonrev to back of the bus (or maybe just become a functioning union, on the same page with no more recalls)
Passing up tens of thousands of future health care monies to worry about DHing and non revving? Very short sighted in my opinion.

I'm in favor of option A due to more control.
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Sounds like an HSA that can't be touched until retirement. Can the funds be used for non-medical after retirement?

Either way it sounds like another vehicle to boost retirement savings tax-free in addition to maxing out the 401k and HSA.
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