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9Etransplant 05-26-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by SoarHigh757 (Post 2602748)
Relatively recent new hire here (2/18). Excuse my ignorance, but how do you determine the cutoff for line holders at the various bases? I’m trying to compare DTW and ATL for a 200 FO. I’ve seen posts in this thread in the past with updates for each base, but was trying to learn how to determine it on my own so don’t have to keep bothering you all for a new summary. Thank you for your help.

Look at the final awards in PBS and/or the monthly bid pack. The bid pack gives a reserve/line projection which isn’t always accurate but the final awards will show you exactly what is happening.

PilotMechanic 05-26-2018 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by SoarHigh757 (Post 2602748)
Relatively recent new hire here (2/18). Excuse my ignorance, but how do you determine the cutoff for line holders at the various bases? I’m trying to compare DTW and ATL for a 200 FO. I’ve seen posts in this thread in the past with updates for each base, but was trying to learn how to determine it on my own so don’t have to keep bothering you all for a new summary. Thank you for your help.

Try the seniority calculator in the other thread. Otherwise PBS awards and compare them to seniority list.

SoarHigh757 05-26-2018 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by 9Etransplant (Post 2602767)
Look at the final awards in PBS and/or the monthly bid pack. The bid pack gives a reserve/line projection which isn’t always accurate but the final awards will show you exactly what is happening.

Thanks for that. So looking at the lowest seniority numbers who are projected to hold a 200 FO line, it appears ATL is a 10/17 hire while DTW is a 02/17 hire. For the “reserve or line” category, ATL is a 12/17 hire while DTW is a 10/17 hire. Does this mean for a 200 FO that DTW is approximately 2 to 8 months longer reserve time than ATL? Thanks for helping me interpret.

KelvinHelmholtz 05-26-2018 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by SoarHigh757 (Post 2602809)
Thanks for that. So looking at the lowest seniority numbers who are projected to hold a 200 FO line, it appears ATL is a 10/17 hire while DTW is a 02/17 hire. For the “reserve or line” category, ATL is a 12/17 hire while DTW is a 10/17 hire. Does this mean for a 200 FO that DTW is approximately 2 to 8 months longer reserve time than ATL? Thanks for helping me interpret.

No you’re looking at the bid packs. Go to PBS and on the top bar Reports -> Catetory Line reports and then whichever base and seat you want to see.

SoarHigh757 05-27-2018 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz (Post 2602822)
No you’re looking at the bid packs. Go to PBS and on the top bar Reports -> Catetory Line reports and then whichever base and seat you want to see.

Ah, thank you! So looking at the reports, at DTW most junior 200 FO line holder for June is a 10/17 hire, while at ATL most junior is 12/17 hire. Thus reserve at DTW is roughly 8 months vs 6 months at ATL (at this point in time and flying volume).

Flogger 05-29-2018 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by SoarHigh757 (Post 2603203)
Ah, thank you! So looking at the reports, at DTW most junior 200 FO line holder for June is a 10/17 hire, while at ATL most junior is 12/17 hire. Thus reserve at DTW is roughly 8 months vs 6 months at ATL (at this point in time and flying volume).

If it helps, the most JR ATL line holder CRJ200 CA is a 10/2017 hire.

Prop Job 06-06-2018 02:42 PM

Where's 18-04?

flydiamond 06-06-2018 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Prop Job (Post 2609746)
Where's 18-04?

Dude, 18-03 is a month and two days old.

blackdenton 06-06-2018 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Prop Job (Post 2609746)
Where's 18-04?

They have to get the bid card updated to reflect the SLC and LAX bases and 175s, sit tight Delta IT is on it.

Prop Job 06-06-2018 05:23 PM

There's been one on the 5th every other month since about last Aug. Just realized 18-03 was 5/5, got a month ahead of myself.

flydiamond 06-06-2018 05:59 PM

With all the movement nowadays why not have monthly vacancies? They basically run two or more of each type of upgrade class anyways. Would allow them to better capture FOs eligible to upgrade which they seem to have a interest in what with the 950 hour change and what not. Would benefit other pilots by being more easily able to change bases.

SirLurksalot 06-06-2018 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2609875)
With all the movement nowadays why not have monthly vacancies? They basically run two or more of each type of upgrade class anyways. Would allow them to better capture FOs eligible to upgrade which they seem to have a interest in what with the 950 hour change and what not. Would benefit other pilots by being more easily able to change bases.

When upgrade award to line captain is a five month process, I'd say they need to catch up on that first

Avroman 06-07-2018 08:30 PM

The multi class bid may well be doing more harm than good right now. Under some scenarios it makes sense (like when we were merging 3 companies with effectively 7 different fleets (think fences and lack of differences) Then yes you don't want the wasteful training (that was done anyway back then) but now with things so streamlined, it makes little sense to have these type bids.


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