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Old 02-08-2018, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Migz74 View Post
I’m a lowly CFI without any 121 time. Should I be concerned about my upcoming interview?
The best advice I received was “be yourself and be sharp on IFR stuff” (paraphrased). I was one of the few in my recent interview group with no jet time (1500hr cfi) and I received a cjo. I admit I felt a bit lowly but tried not to let it show

I coughed up the $ for a gouge. Wasn’t useful to me.
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:51 PM
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Great advice! Everyone who interviews is a pilot, and they know how to fly. Some have done it longer, and have more hours. Doesn’t always make them a good pilot.

But if you come prepared, with a good attitude, and show them you want to be here, I am sure you will do well (you being ANYONE who wishes to interview at EDV).

No one wants to sit next to a cocky or arrogant person for 8-12 hours a day for three to five days at a time, and those are likely to be the ones not to get a CJO.

And pay for gouge? I wouldn’t, unless it was my “forever” airline.

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The best advice I received was “be yourself and be sharp on IFR stuff” (paraphrased). I was one of the few in my recent interview group with no jet time (1500hr cfi) and I received a cjo. I admit I felt a bit lowly but tried not to let it show

I coughed up the $ for a gouge. Wasn’t useful to me.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:46 AM
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And pay for gouge? I wouldn’t, unless it was my “forever” airline.
I'm not a big fan of gouge because it can always steer you wrong but as long as you take everything with a grain of salt that it may not be EXACTLY as described I would pay for it.

I'm assuming he means somewhere like aviation interviews.com; that place is like $20? Worth it in my opinion even if it's 50% wrong.

YMMV.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
I'm not a big fan of gouge because it can always steer you wrong but as long as you take everything with a grain of salt that it may not be EXACTLY as described I would pay for it.

I'm assuming he means somewhere like aviation interviews.com; that place is like $20? Worth it in my opinion even if it's 50% wrong.

YMMV.
Agreed. Coughing up $20 to at least get an idea of the formatting and potential line of question is a drop in the hat and more than worth it. As far as the other guy who made the “lowly cfi” remark, you aren’t. Like someone else said, they are hiring people, a pilot can be trained. And I would much rather sit next to a cfi who is eager to learn and happy to be there compared to a spurned captain who’s disgruntled about his last 121 gig falling apart.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
I'm assuming he means somewhere like aviation interviews.com; that place is like $20? Worth it in my opinion even if it's 50% wrong.
Yes, that's the gouge I was referencing. The reason I said I didn't find it useful is that HR tells you the interview will consist of an HR portion and a technical portion when they schedule it, and that is about all the gouge did for me.

In this case, that gouge lists several hundred potential questions on IFR knowledge, "what if your captain/FO did this," etc, which anyone can learn any airline's going to ask in an interview after a few minutes on google or talking to a regional pilot.

At the time I spent the $20 on the gouge I felt good about it, but looking back on it, nothing about the gouge helped me prepare for anything that I wasn't already prepared for from the research I'd done for free. Yes it's just 20$ but to make that money back I had to go do another 10 laps in the pattern

One of the things I found appealing about the process was the Endeavor recruiters were not parading around telling everyone exactly what would be on the interview, and they weren't telling everyone that the interview was easy and "nothing to worry about." I've heard both from recruiters at other regionals I looked at. I think that contrast in recruiting was more helpful than any gouge I could have found, as I was well motivated to be fluent in IFR stuff and be able to talk about myself coherently. My two cents.
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Old 02-10-2018, 08:23 AM
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Yes, that's the gouge I was referencing. The reason I said I didn't find it useful is that HR tells you the interview will consist of an HR portion and a technical portion when they schedule it, and that is about all the gouge did for me.

In this case, that gouge lists several hundred potential questions on IFR knowledge, "what if your captain/FO did this," etc, which anyone can learn any airline's going to ask in an interview after a few minutes on google or talking to a regional pilot.

At the time I spent the $20 on the gouge I felt good about it, but looking back on it, nothing about the gouge helped me prepare for anything that I wasn't already prepared for from the research I'd done for free. Yes it's just 20$ but to make that money back I had to go do another 10 laps in the pattern

One of the things I found appealing about the process was the Endeavor recruiters were not parading around telling everyone exactly what would be on the interview, and they weren't telling everyone that the interview was easy and "nothing to worry about." I've heard both from recruiters at other regionals I looked at. I think that contrast in recruiting was more helpful than any gouge I could have found, as I was well motivated to be fluent in IFR stuff and be able to talk about myself coherently. My two cents.
Very much different experience for me at Endeavor than the Skywest interview where I'm pretty sure they asked me every question on the gouge. It was excessive. Endeavor was much more to the point and much more about evaluating you as a person (like you said being able to speak coherently and represent yourself and your experiences well) rather than your ability to rattle off answer after answer. Gouge on aviation interviews was not really necessary for Endeavor, but you'll absolutey need to refresh your memory on high speed/high altitude aerodynamics, jet engines, and IFR FARs such as alternate planning here. It is a very competitive selection process here right now and I don't want anyone to be misled to think they don't need to spend a solid week or two preparing both for the technical and HR portions.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:59 PM
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...nothing about the gouge helped me prepare for anything that I wasn't already prepared for...
Did you make the effort to share your experience afterwards?
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Did you make the effort to share your experience afterwards?
Good idea. They did change the interview questions a month or so ago....
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:21 AM
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Has anyone interviewed recently? I’ve got an interview coming up and I’m wondering if they still ask about aircraft systems for current plane you’re flying and jet systems as well as aerodynamics. Is it now condensed down to HR, TMAAT, and IR questions?
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Originally Posted by Migz74 View Post
Has anyone interviewed recently? I’ve got an interview coming up and I’m wondering if they still ask about aircraft systems for current plane you’re flying and jet systems as well as aerodynamics. Is it now condensed down to HR, TMAAT, and IR questions?
It has not been condensed. In fact, it got slightly larger. Aerodynamics are still a part of it. Jet engines, swept wing characteristics, high altitude stalls and handling, etc. are all still in the question bank. There are a few in the pool that ask to briefly describe a system on your current airplane but it's not a build it or draw it level of detail. Just a generic overview.
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