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You want me to explain oo PBS to a person who has never used AOS PBS? I can’t get people who have actually used the system to understand how it works.
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That said, you stated there was a better way to explain it but without explaining anything.
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He said his first tier PBS was basically only "these days off" and that the company need trips were pushed into that time.
He also mentioned he tried to swap into trips later in the month and was denied and put trips on the trade board with additional $ for pickup and no takers.
I might have misunderstood but it sounded way worse than our credit push at 9E and if you had to you could probably trade with open time or post additional $ on the trade board and get someone to fly it.
Sounded worse than 9E to me.
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He mentioned the tiers of their PBS and I explained our credit push at 9E, it didn't sound like the same thing.
He said his first tier PBS was basically only "these days off" and that the company need trips were pushed into that time.
He also mentioned he tried to swap into trips later in the month and was denied and put trips on the trade board with additional $ for pickup and no takers.
I might have misunderstood but it sounded way worse than our credit push at 9E and if you had to you could probably trade with open time or post additional $ on the trade board and get someone to fly it.
Sounded worse than 9E to me.
He said his first tier PBS was basically only "these days off" and that the company need trips were pushed into that time.
He also mentioned he tried to swap into trips later in the month and was denied and put trips on the trade board with additional $ for pickup and no takers.
I might have misunderstood but it sounded way worse than our credit push at 9E and if you had to you could probably trade with open time or post additional $ on the trade board and get someone to fly it.
Sounded worse than 9E to me.
CN is an efficiency function tool of pbs (not company manipulated directly) that might put a legal pilot on a given trip regardless of any pilot whose line is still solving bid preferences. This really starts happening after the system has solved about 40% of the bidders then craps itself trying to get the last 40% full lines in the most efficient way possible. It reduces the number of partial line holders we have each month and reduces the number of pilots we need per plane.
As far as not being able to swap to an open time trip later on in the month is also an issue affecting qol but for all the obvious reasons he should know the answer from CS is going to be no.
Then as far as no other pilots picking up his trip for the $ posted Im guessing he didn’t incentivize enough.
I might be jaded now, I hear a lot of crying from people who are new to the industry. Like nobody told them we work holidays and your sons birthday. “I’m not flying on reserve” “now I can’t get weekends off”
If you (they) can’t hold the day off you need then pony up or call out emergency.
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No need to apologize, I care a lot less about what you say than you think I should
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I don’t know what a credit push is as we don’t have that. CN’ing is BS yet I can understand why it exists. It also unfortunately blatantly violates seniority. It also stops happening around 25% relative bid seniority. I haven’t been CN’d in years. The “Company need” phrase makes it sound important while in reality the company needs all trips to be covered.
CN is an efficiency function tool of pbs (not company manipulated directly) that might put a legal pilot on a given trip regardless of any pilot whose line is still solving bid preferences. This really starts happening after the system has solved about 40% of the bidders then craps itself trying to get the last 40% full lines in the most efficient way possible. It reduces the number of partial line holders we have each month and reduces the number of pilots we need per plane.
As far as not being able to swap to an open time trip later on in the month is also an issue affecting qol but for all the obvious reasons he should know the answer from CS is going to be no.
Then as far as no other pilots picking up his trip for the $ posted Im guessing he didn’t incentivize enough.
I might be jaded now, I hear a lot of crying from people who are new to the industry. Like nobody told them we work holidays and your sons birthday. “I’m not flying on reserve” “now I can’t get weekends off”
If you (they) can’t hold the day off you need then pony up or call out emergency.
CN is an efficiency function tool of pbs (not company manipulated directly) that might put a legal pilot on a given trip regardless of any pilot whose line is still solving bid preferences. This really starts happening after the system has solved about 40% of the bidders then craps itself trying to get the last 40% full lines in the most efficient way possible. It reduces the number of partial line holders we have each month and reduces the number of pilots we need per plane.
As far as not being able to swap to an open time trip later on in the month is also an issue affecting qol but for all the obvious reasons he should know the answer from CS is going to be no.
Then as far as no other pilots picking up his trip for the $ posted Im guessing he didn’t incentivize enough.
I might be jaded now, I hear a lot of crying from people who are new to the industry. Like nobody told them we work holidays and your sons birthday. “I’m not flying on reserve” “now I can’t get weekends off”
If you (they) can’t hold the day off you need then pony up or call out emergency.
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