Mesabah

They must have missed a zero, I can name 24 pilots off the top of my head. There are also several other typos in that memo.

prex8390

It’s almost if they want you to believe that delta is the only airline that will call us back and why bother applying to the other majors. Didn’t you see our BIG numbers going to delta?? It’s like that South Park episode where they run over the beaver dam and the news reports that the small town with a small population has a deaths in the hundreds of millions. Look that the big numbers kids!!

Avroman

I know of several that have left for United and Southwest lately along with a bunch going to Spirit and a few to JetBlue. Delta isn't the only bully on the block despite what they want us to think. There may not be many (any) captains leaving DTW or MSP but there are plenty of NYC guys getting interviews and jumping ship.

ShyGuy

Oh boo hoo, cry me a river and this is coming from me one of the most anti-9E people online. Hate him all you want, he took Pinnacle from a small Saab propeller airline to a large national CRJ operator. Everyone that started at 9E in the early years and through the CRJ expansion did well. They came in, upgraded very quickly and got their time. Up until 2006 those guys had a 2 yr upgrade. Pilots hired in 2007 and later suffered from age 65/recession, and yes 9E made many mistakes and underbid contracts that caused them to eventually go BK. I was at 9E 2007-2012 and even in the bad times, no pilot was laid off, the paychecks cleared, people got their time and eventually got out. Yes there was lots of shadiness, the CFO made some horrible mistakes, yeah they stole from employees, prolonged the 1999 contract all the way through 2011, the list goes on. But if you work/worked at Pinnacle back in those years, where are you now? Probably at Delta. Or another major airline. I'd say that worked out pretty well all things considered. So now the ex-CEO is dead and we didn't kill him, but the callousness about his shooting death is uncalled for.

pangolin

The reason there are ANY 50 seaters left is because scope says that they can have any number of those but the 76 and 70 seaters are limited. United is scoped out on 76/70 seaters so if you see any moving its just shuffling. American can add some more. Delta - I don't know. American union is under pressure to ease on scope - the rank and file say burn the house down before giving on scope. Why? Because if they give on scope that flying goes out of mainline to the regionals and the mainline pilots have less advancement and less job security. Ideally - all the flying should be mainline and we should not have the regionals. However, that's not gonna happen because Regionals = B Scale which is what the airlines wanted all along but the unions fought. B scale is why we have regionals at all. Right now the time is ripe for the mainline unions to step up and fight on scope. HOWEVER some short sighted members will realize that if they give on scope they can increase their salaries because the money isn't going to pay more mainline pilots. B scale lives.

theUpsideDown

Exibit A, shyguy, chief troll and generally considered mentally unstable. A reckless mess off misplaced anger, self aggrandizement, and ran from pinnacle in shame because his angry web posts were intolerable by the pilot group. Ask the virgin pilot group about him, he took his act on the road and it didn't go so well.

Any chance he has to post in a pinnacle webboard, rewrite history, or claim victory after complete defeat, this definition of insanity will be there. Leapt back into the web boards, repeating the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

ShyGuy

I prefer a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliche, mother held him too much or not enough. Last picked at kickball, late night uncle sneaky whatever.

theUpsideDown

Now he’s so angry that moments of levity actually cause him pain; give him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts.

JulesWinfield

I see what you did there.

Avroman

Well that's a bit overstated. Shy tried to state what was going on and not get carried away one direction or the other. Troll??? He was far from a troll, unlike a few lurking around today. Just because you didn't like the message didn't mean it was a false message. Much like a few have barked at me for not liking history here, I'm just the historian telling the history, not the executive creating history. It's just too bad I didn't grab a seat on an Airbus years ago like Shy did and leave this place's history in the dust. Take that New York co-base hate out on someone else.