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Dingus 01-09-2019 06:54 AM

Vacancy 19-01
 
Vacancy 19-01

- how senior will the upgrade go?
- will there be a secondary?
- how much growth will we see in ATL over this and the next couple realignments?
- will SkyWest get 700/900 flying in ATL?
- will Dingus wear the hat?

prex8390 01-09-2019 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Dingus (Post 2739495)
Vacancy 19-01

- how senior will the upgrade go?
- will there be a secondary?
- how much growth will we see in ATL over this and the next couple realignments?
- will SkyWest get 700/900 flying in ATL?
- will Dingus wear the hat?

- beats me. It could continue on track to be 2-3 years but I’d bet there will be a couple 98xxx in the mix. Let’s hope some new guys can get it. I’d bet on late 97xxx early 98xxx getting it. Which is about 2.5 years. That’s my guess.


-there always is


- we don’t know until the announce the growth. But they’ve been saying since they opened the base they want ATL to be endeavors largest base


-that’s unknown at this time but skypest always gets what they want. Wouldn’t surprise me. They are currently operating a few flights out of ATL on 700s, namely ASE.


-better not

EDVPLT 01-09-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Dingus (Post 2739495)
Vacancy 19-01

- how senior will the upgrade go?
- will there be a secondary?
- how much growth will we see in ATL over this and the next couple realignments?
- will SkyWest get 700/900 flying in ATL?
- will Dingus wear the hat?


-I will tell you when the final comes out
-Always is
-If it happens I will tell you. Though there has to be some type of growth for 20 spots each
-Probably
-Only if he wants to go to Delta

KSCessnaDriver 01-09-2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2739560)
- beats me. It could continue on track to be 2-3 years but I’d bet there will be a couple 98xxx in the mix. Let’s hope some new guys can get it. I’d bet on late 97xxx early 98xxx getting it. Which is about 2.5 years. That’s my guess.


-there always is


- we don’t know until the announce the growth. But they’ve been saying since they opened the base they want ATL to be endeavors largest base


-that’s unknown at this time but skypest always gets what they want. Wouldn’t surprise me. They are currently operating a few flights out of ATL on 700s, namely ASE.


-better not


Over the last few weeks there's been a handful of OO 900's operating in and out of ATL, on top of the 700 ASE flying.

Bartok 01-09-2019 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by EDVPLT (Post 2739662)
-I will tell you when the final comes out
-Always is
-If it happens I will tell you. Though there has to be some type of growth for 20 spots each
-Probably
-Only if he wants to go to Delta

I wonder how many points Delta assigns to the panel for guys that wear the hat and do Podium and galley announcements?

You know its in a matrix somewhere.

Jk3728 01-09-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 2739700)
I wonder how many points Delta assigns to the panel for guys that wear the hat and do Podium and galley announcements?

You know its in a matrix somewhere.

It’s up to the Delta guy with the clipboard, the one recording how often you do it. The same one who logs how much you use the APU. So when they do their formula they can see how many minutes of use you save by shutting the APU on quick turns. They use that number and make a multiplier for hat/podium points.

Green Needles 01-09-2019 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Jk3728 (Post 2739706)
It’s up to the Delta guy with the clipboard, the one recording how often you do it. The same one who logs how much you use the APU. So when they do their formula they can see how many minutes of use you save by shutting the APU on quick turns. They use that number and make a multiplier for hat/podium points.

Don't forget single engine taxi. Gotta pad their profit sharing.

Jk3728 01-09-2019 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2739767)
Don't forget single engine taxi. Gotta pad their profit sharing.



Single engine taxi with a cross bleed start ;)


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Jk3728 01-09-2019 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2739767)
Don't forget single engine taxi. Gotta pad their profit sharing.

Single engine taxi with a cross bleed start ;)

Green Needles 01-09-2019 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Jk3728 (Post 2739803)
Single engine taxi with a cross bleed start ;)

You're hired! :p

JulesWinfield 01-09-2019 04:59 PM

:confused:

Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2739827)
You're hired! :p

Points deducted for no mention of a hat or a mustache.

Dingus 01-09-2019 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jk3728 (Post 2739706)
It’s up to the Delta guy with the clipboard, the one recording how often you do it. The same one who logs how much you use the APU. So when they do their formula they can see how many minutes of use you save by shutting the APU on quick turns. They use that number and make a multiplier for hat/podium points.

I'm not convinced that they're tracking whether or not you wear the hat.

prex8390 01-09-2019 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Dingus (Post 2739920)
I'm not convinced that they're tracking whether or not you wear the hat.

That’s what they want you to believe

ninerdriver 01-09-2019 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Dingus (Post 2739920)
I'm not convinced that they're tracking whether or not you wear the hat.

You just lost points for publicly doubting Delta.

catwrangler 01-09-2019 07:29 PM

You guys met Pete yet? That guy blows

IAFDOF 01-10-2019 05:49 AM

The hat isn’t everything; you have to dress for the job you *want.* That means Delta Air Lines lanyards, tie tacks, pins, and luggage tags, too. It doesn’t matter that you don’t actually work for Delta, make Delta money, or get much respect from their pilot group or management... or customers... or investors... or even your coworkers. You’re doing it for *you!*

KSCessnaDriver 01-10-2019 07:11 AM

Fleet planning email that goes with 19-01 is out. Great news, if you want NYC 200...

Green Needles 01-10-2019 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2740220)
Fleet planning email that goes with 19-01 is out. Great news, if you want NYC 200...

Didn't the company want the 200s out of NYC???

wiggy15 01-10-2019 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2740220)
Fleet planning email that goes with 19-01 is out. Great news, if you want NYC 200...

Or ATL 900...adding several lines there.

KSCessnaDriver 01-10-2019 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2740308)
Didn't the company want the 200s out of NYC???

Probably not as badly as Skywest wants ATL200 flying...

Green Needles 01-10-2019 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2740327)
Probably not as badly as Skywest wants ATL200 flying...

We may be the gold standard, but skywest is the golden child.

flydiamond 01-10-2019 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2740308)
Didn't the company want the 200s out of NYC???

I’m thinking the company is just going to either deadhead NYC crews down to ATL or have them flow there somehow. NYC 200 is grossly overstaffed and no takers on the TOWOP.

JulesWinfield 01-10-2019 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2740384)
I’m thinking the company is just going to either deadhead NYC crews down to ATL or have them flow there somehow. NYC 200 is grossly overstaffed and no takers on the TOWOP.

My entire pairing at the beginning of the month was out of ATL, except the first and last leg, and I am NYC based.

Green Needles 01-10-2019 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 2740473)
My entire pairing at the beginning of the month was out of ATL, except the first and last leg, and I am NYC based.

ATL based crews are doing the CVG flying.

Avroman 01-10-2019 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 2740473)
My entire pairing at the beginning of the month was out of ATL, except the first and last leg, and I am NYC based.

DTW and MSP 900 have been doing those kind of pairings in and out of NYC for a couple years now.:mad:

vessbot 01-12-2019 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2740668)
DTW and MSP 900 have been doing those kind of pairings in and out of NYC for a couple years now.:mad:

Yea they should steamline things by reducing the MSP staffing and giving that flying to NYC

ninerdriver 01-12-2019 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by vessbot (Post 2741719)
Yea they should steamline things by reducing the MSP staffing and giving that flying to NYC

Anybody with "Avro" in their screen name is probably not the person you want to say "shrink MSP" to...

vessbot 01-12-2019 12:27 PM

Hey I'm just a solutions man!

gojo 01-12-2019 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by vessbot (Post 2741719)
Yea they should steamline things by reducing the MSP staffing and giving that flying to NYC

They’ve just about killed that base already

theUpsideDown 01-12-2019 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2741746)
They’ve just about killed that base already

Sad sad day.

Avroman 01-16-2019 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by vessbot (Post 2741738)
Hey I'm just a solutions man!

That solution would poop all over every pilot on property. By far the most senior base being closed would create a cascading displacement that would be about as ugly as could be. It's probably why CVG has become a 100+ rooms a night "outstation" rather than a large crew base at the expense of closing MSP and DTW. The consolidation of bases isn't worth the trouble it'd cause.

vessbot 01-17-2019 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2744549)
That solution would poop all over every pilot on property. By far the most senior base being closed would create a cascading displacement that would be about as ugly as could be. It's probably why CVG has become a 100+ rooms a night "outstation" rather than a large crew base at the expense of closing MSP and DTW. The consolidation of bases isn't worth the trouble it'd cause.

So then maintaining the MSP base and flying through New York ain't as bad?

ninerdriver 01-17-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by vessbot (Post 2744837)
So then maintaining the MSP base and flying through New York ain't as bad?

Yes. The MSP-based pilots stay based in MSP because they don't want to commute. They're also super senior.

Close MSP, and those pilots will displace everyone in DTW. Those DTW pilots will displace folks in ATL and NYC. Everyone's QOL steps back significantly. The MSP pilots will have to commute, and everyone else will lose relative seniority within their base.

preflight 01-17-2019 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2744865)
Yes. The MSP-based pilots stay based in MSP because they don't want to commute. They're also super senior.

Close MSP, and those pilots will displace everyone in DTW. Those DTW pilots will displace folks in ATL and NYC. Everyone's QOL steps back significantly. The MSP pilots will have to commute, and everyone else will lose relative seniority within their base.

I vote for new bases in Denver and Vegas, but I just get one vote...:rolleyes:

TalkTurkey 01-17-2019 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Jk3728 (Post 2739803)
Single engine taxi with a cross bleed start ;)

Crossbleed start Checklist:

Taxi: Continue
R Thrust Lever: Bump up two millimeters
L Engine Start: Push

Avroman 01-17-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 2744871)
Crossbleed start Checklist:

Taxi: Continue
R Thrust Lever: Bump up two millimeters
L Engine Start: Push

* or 3 inches if in a 200. :D

KSCessnaDriver 01-17-2019 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2744865)
Yes. The MSP-based pilots stay based in MSP because they don't want to commute. They're also super senior.

Close MSP, and those pilots will displace everyone in DTW. Those DTW pilots will displace folks in ATL and NYC. Everyone's QOL steps back significantly. The MSP pilots will have to commute, and everyone else will lose relative seniority within their base.

The solution is to move the pest to NYC more, but we all know that isn't going to happen.

ninerdriver 01-17-2019 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2744887)
The solution is to move the pest to NYC more, but we all know that isn't going to happen.

Actually... my money is on that happening. They have 170s. We don't.

theUpsideDown 01-17-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 2744871)
Crossbleed start Checklist:

Taxi: Continue
R Thrust Lever: Bump up two millimeters
L Engine Start: Push

*COUGH* FADEC magic *COUGH*

Dingus 01-23-2019 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2745068)
*COUGH* FADEC magic *COUGH*

Imagine how many "unwitting" cross-bleed starts happen during the winter. APU is running... A/ICE is on... must happen every day.


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