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Old 05-11-2019, 06:40 AM
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With Delta taking the jumpseat until D-15, there's really no reason to list for the jumpseat on Delta until right about then. Just stay listed in the back until then.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
With Delta taking the jumpseat until D-15, there's really no reason to list for the jumpseat on Delta until right about then. Just stay listed in the back until then.
Unless another Endeavor pilot lists
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:51 AM
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Unless another Endeavor pilot lists
I guess that's the risk. Either way, it is what it is
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:35 AM
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Multiple times there's been a blurb in a FOU/CPNL or what have you, that the policy in this case is that if you get bumped from the JS it automatically puts you in the back IN NONREV PRIORITY ORDER. And therefore the surest way to cover all bases is to list for the JS. I always thought that was a too-easy foboff and would not trust it. And it looks like I was right.

I just found one example, in the 2/11/2019 FOU, "jumpseat information and reminders." You should fill out a FCR referencing the quote from there and what happened.
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wiggy15 View Post
Not really dirty tricks when it's the policy. While some agents don't enforce it, it is policy that you can't list for both. They will only give you a request until 15 prior because Delta guys can take the jumpseat untill then. Sounds like a bad day commuting but no body did anything wrong.
That sounds about right. I’ve been commuting for a long time. And I’ve never seen it work where a Jumpseater gets rolled to the back on a full flight if you lose the Jumpseat at the end. I also have been told many times about not listing for the back and the Jumpseat. I could be wrong, but I feel like that applies to mainline. As they can list for the Jumpseat themselves. So listing for both could essentially keep another Delta Pilot from listing for the Jumpseat ahead of time. Maybe I shouldn’t say this, but I usually list as a non rev first. And then I will check on the Jumpseat if it’s looking iffy. I don’t tell them that I’m listed as a non rev. And usually they don’t ask. Then I’ll cancel the reservation as soon as I get the Jumpseat. Because, if it’s that tight, I’ll probably not be getting on in the back until right at the end anyway. Maybe I’m giving you bad advice. Hope not
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:36 AM
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So with S3A everything below boards first and we can still get kicked off jumpseat becomes don’t bother listing for jumpseat until the last minute....check!
When you list for the jumpseat, you are no longer S3A you are now JSA. AKA bottom of the list. Can't list for both S3A and JSA per their policy.
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Originally Posted by vessbot View Post
Multiple times there's been a blurb in a FOU/CPNL or what have you, that the policy in this case is that if you get bumped from the JS it automatically puts you in the back IN NONREV PRIORITY ORDER. And therefore the surest way to cover all bases is to list for the JS. I always thought that was a too-easy foboff and would not trust it. And it looks like I was right.

I just found one example, in the 2/11/2019 FOU, "jumpseat information and reminders." You should fill out a FCR referencing the quote from there and what happened.
The issue becomes, when the DL pilot shows up and takes the jumpseat at D-16, bumps you out of the jumpseat, rolls you to S3A, and the gate agent has already filled the remainder of the seats in the back with lower priority nonrevs.

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When you list for the jumpseat, you are no longer S3A you are now JSA. AKA bottom of the list. Can't list for both S3A and JSA per their policy.
No, if the JS is already full of higher priority passengers, you are rolled into the non-rev list at your PPR priority, which is S3A. JSA is for OAL crew that don't have Delta benefits.
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