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ninerdriver 09-12-2019 07:06 AM

How many ahead of me?
 
It's time for me to try to do something useful around here in addition to trolling the OO pilots.

Want to upgrade? Here's a count of how many FOs might be in line ahead of you.
  • These counts are based on the 9/3/2019 ISL.
  • "FOs ahead of you" means FOs from classes ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs and FTIs are included. They might upgrade. They might not.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who won't upgrade or are waiting for an MSP spot. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • FOs hired less than 18 months ago are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who probably don't have at least 1000 company hours (or 800 company hours once they change it).
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.

.Hire date / FOs ahead of you
.year 2015 / 0
...1H 2016 / 21
...07-2016 / 37
...08-2016 / 42
...09-2016 / 53
...10-2016 / 64
...11-2016 / 78
...12-2016 / 82
01-09-2017 / 86
01-23-2017 / 102
02-06-2017 / 120
02-21-2017 / 137
03-06-2017 / 157
03-20-2017 / 164
04-03-2017 / 173
04-17-2017 / 184
05-01-2017 / 201
05-15-2017 / 216
05-19-2017 / 229
06-05-2017 / 230
06-19-2017 / 250
07-10-2017 / 264
07-24-2017 / 290
08-07-2017 / 302
08-21-2017 / 312
09-05-2017 / 334
09-18-2017 / 350
10-02-2017 / 362
10-16-2017 / 378
10-30-2017 / 401
11-13-2017 / 418
11-27-2017 / 434
12-11-2017 / 455
01-08-2018 / 480
01-22-2018 / 502
02-12-2018 / 519
02-26-2018 / 539
03-12-2018 / 549
03-26-2018 / 560


I hope this helps. How can I make this list better?

FlyJay 09-12-2019 07:52 AM

Awesome list, thanks for compiling this. Only caveat may be the FOs who went to the 200 (DTW/ATL) in early 2018 and were stuck on reserve/still stuck on reserve since then and didn't fly much. A lot of those people only have 300-450hrs company/121 time. So that could skew the upgrade times. Otherwise thanks again!

NotMe 09-12-2019 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2885965)
It's time for me to try to do something useful around here in addition to trolling the OO pilots.



Want to upgrade? Here's a count of how many FOs might be in line ahead of you.


  • These counts are based on the 9/3/2019 ISL.
  • "FOs ahead of you" means FOs from classes ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs and FTIs are included. They might upgrade. They might not.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who won't upgrade or are waiting for an MSP spot. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • FOs hired less than 18 months ago are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who probably don't have at least 1000 company hours (or 800 company hours once they change it).
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.



.Hire date / FOs ahead of you

.year 2015 / 0

...1H 2016 / 21

...07-2016 / 37

...08-2016 / 42

...09-2016 / 53

...10-2016 / 64

...11-2016 / 78

...12-2016 / 82

01-09-2017 / 86

01-23-2017 / 102

02-06-2017 / 120

02-21-2017 / 137

03-06-2017 / 157

03-20-2017 / 164

04-03-2017 / 173

04-17-2017 / 184

05-01-2017 / 201

05-15-2017 / 216

05-19-2017 / 229

06-05-2017 / 230

06-19-2017 / 250

07-10-2017 / 264

07-24-2017 / 290

08-07-2017 / 302

08-21-2017 / 312

09-05-2017 / 334

09-18-2017 / 350

10-02-2017 / 362

10-16-2017 / 378

10-30-2017 / 401

11-13-2017 / 418

11-27-2017 / 434

12-11-2017 / 455

01-08-2018 / 480

01-22-2018 / 502

02-12-2018 / 519

02-26-2018 / 539

03-12-2018 / 549

03-26-2018 / 560





I hope this helps. How can I make this list better?



So realistically 1/4 of our seniority list is ahead of me after almost two years here. Now I’m just depressed. Thanks.

You can make it better by getting rid of a lot of those FOs!

ninerdriver 09-13-2019 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by NotMe (Post 2885990)
So realistically 1/4 of our seniority list is ahead of me after almost two years here. Now I’m just depressed. Thanks.

You can make it better by getting rid of a lot of those FOs!


NotMe / 50
Everyone else / 500

AimHigh1 09-14-2019 10:30 AM

Looks like upgrade is 3+ years then right now.. :(

TalkTurkey 09-14-2019 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by AimHigh1 (Post 2887279)
Looks like upgrade is 3+ years then right now.. :(

FOs may as well go to Spirit.

blindfayth 09-14-2019 11:21 AM

That's the plan. If I can ever get off of reserve and get flight time.

NotMe 09-14-2019 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2886957)


NotMe / 50

Everyone else / 500



That’s more like it! Now if I click my heals together three times...

ninerdriver 09-26-2019 05:27 PM

Updated from the 19-05 Final Award. There are some small discrepancies in the counts; I think they're based on the few weeks between the ISL release and the Final Award release.

The next update will be at the next vacancy notice. Thanks!
  • These counts are based on the 9/3/2019 ISL and the 19-05 Final Award, rev. 0.
  • "FOs ahead of you" means FOs from classes ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs and FTIs are included. They might upgrade. They might not.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who won't upgrade or are waiting for an MSP spot. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • FOs hired less than 18 months ago are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who probably don't have at least 1000 company hours (or 800 company hours once they change it).
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.

.Hire date / FOs ahead of you
.year 2015 / 0
...1H 2016 / 17
...07-2016 / 29
...08-2016 / 32
...09-2016 / 39
...10-2016 / 43
...11-2016 / 51
...12-2016 / 54
01-09-2017 / 56
01-23-2017 / 64
02-06-2017 / 76
02-21-2017 / 93
03-06-2017 / 113
03-20-2017 / 120
04-03-2017 / 129
04-17-2017 / 140
05-01-2017 / 157
05-15-2017 / 172
05-19-2017 / 185
06-05-2017 / 186
06-19-2017 / 206
07-10-2017 / 220
07-24-2017 / 246
08-07-2017 / 258
08-21-2017 / 268
09-05-2017 / 290
09-18-2017 / 306
10-02-2017 / 318
10-16-2017 / 334
10-30-2017 / 357
11-13-2017 / 374
11-27-2017 / 390
12-11-2017 / 411
01-08-2018 / 436
01-22-2018 / 458
02-12-2018 / 475
02-26-2018 / 495
03-12-2018 / 505
03-26-2018 / 516

NotMe 09-26-2019 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2894005)
Updated from the 19-05 Final Award. There are some small discrepancies in the counts; I think they're based on the few weeks between the ISL release and the Final Award release.



The next update will be at the next vacancy notice. Thanks!


  • These counts are based on the 9/3/2019 ISL and the 19-05 Final Award, rev. 0.
  • "FOs ahead of you" means FOs from classes ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs and FTIs are included. They might upgrade. They might not.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who won't upgrade or are waiting for an MSP spot. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • FOs hired less than 18 months ago are not included. The goal is to exclude FOs who probably don't have at least 1000 company hours (or 800 company hours once they change it).
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.



.Hire date / FOs ahead of you

.year 2015 / 0

...1H 2016 / 17

...07-2016 / 29

...08-2016 / 32

...09-2016 / 39

...10-2016 / 43

...11-2016 / 51

...12-2016 / 54

01-09-2017 / 56

01-23-2017 / 64

02-06-2017 / 76

02-21-2017 / 93

03-06-2017 / 113

03-20-2017 / 120

04-03-2017 / 129

04-17-2017 / 140

05-01-2017 / 157

05-15-2017 / 172

05-19-2017 / 185

06-05-2017 / 186

06-19-2017 / 206

07-10-2017 / 220

07-24-2017 / 246

08-07-2017 / 258

08-21-2017 / 268

09-05-2017 / 290

09-18-2017 / 306

10-02-2017 / 318

10-16-2017 / 334

10-30-2017 / 357

11-13-2017 / 374

11-27-2017 / 390

12-11-2017 / 411

01-08-2018 / 436

01-22-2018 / 458

02-12-2018 / 475

02-26-2018 / 495

03-12-2018 / 505

03-26-2018 / 516




Thanks for compiling this - I may not like how many are ahead of me, but it is nice to see the numbers, and hopefully see them change quickly!


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