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JonGoodsell764 08-06-2020 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 3106015)
OK mr know it all, explain what happened to those FO's?

You want me to expand on post #37? How? Seems well articulated to me.

Flying is Cool 08-06-2020 05:57 PM

Mcmuffin 😂

ninerdriver 01-13-2021 04:29 PM

20-06 final update
 
It's been a minute. It's time for an update.

One change: PHTs (including FTIs and MGTs) no longer count, because when they move, they don't take up a vacant space. That makes most of the numbers on this list lower, even with all of the downgrades we've seen. It also makes the list a little more accurate.
  • These counts are based on the 12/18/2020 ISL and the 20-06 final award rev.0.
  • "Pilots ahead of you" means FOs ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • Classes before June 2018 are not included.
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.

.Hire date / Pilots ahead of you
.year 2015 / 0
.year 2016 / 11
01-09-2017 / 25
01-23-2017 / 27
02-06-2017 / 29
02-21-2017 / 34
03-06-2017 / 41
03-20-2017 / 43
04-03-2017 / 46
04-17-2017 / 47
05-01-2017 / 49
05-15-2017 / 54
05-19-2017 / 59
06-05-2017 / 60
06-19-2017 / 77
07-10-2017 / 89
07-24-2017 / 108
08-07-2017 / 117
08-21-2017 / 127
09-05-2017 / 142
09-18-2017 / 154
10-02-2017 / 169
10-16-2017 / 184
10-30-2017 / 207
11-13-2017 / 223
11-27-2017 / 242
12-11-2017 / 262
01-08-2018 / 284
01-22-2018 / 304
02-12-2018 / 320
02-26-2018 / 338
03-12-2018 / 347
03-26-2018 / 358
04-09-2018 / 367
04-23-2018 / 377
05-07-2018 / 384
05-21-2018 / 399
06-04-2018 / 407
06-18-2018 / 414

ninerdriver 02-10-2021 04:41 PM

21-01 initial update
 
Captain vacancies? What? Let's roll with it.

Like we said last time, PHTs aren't counted anymore.
  • These counts are based on the 2/10/2021 ISL.
  • "Pilots ahead of you" means FOs ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs are not included, because they don't impact available seats.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • Classes before June 2018 are not included.
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.

.Hire date / Pilots ahead of you
.year 2015 / 0
.year 2016 / 10
01-09-2017 / 24
01-23-2017 / 26
02-06-2017 / 28
02-21-2017 / 33
03-06-2017 / 40
03-20-2017 / 42
04-03-2017 / 45
04-17-2017 / 46
05-01-2017 / 48
05-15-2017 / 52
05-19-2017 / 57
06-05-2017 / 58
06-19-2017 / 75
07-10-2017 / 87
07-24-2017 / 106
08-07-2017 / 115
08-21-2017 / 124
09-05-2017 / 139
09-18-2017 / 151
10-02-2017 / 166
10-16-2017 / 181
10-30-2017 / 204
11-13-2017 / 220
11-27-2017 / 239
12-11-2017 / 259
01-08-2018 / 281
01-22-2018 / 301
02-12-2018 / 316
02-26-2018 / 334
03-12-2018 / 343
03-26-2018 / 353
04-09-2018 / 362
04-23-2018 / 372
05-07-2018 / 378
05-21-2018 / 392
06-04-2018 / 400
06-18-2018 / 407

Casualinterest 02-11-2021 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3193485)
Captain vacancies? What? Let's roll with it.

Like we said last time, PHTs aren't counted anymore.
  • These counts are based on the 2/10/2021 ISL.
  • "Pilots ahead of you" means FOs ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs are not included, because they don't impact available seats.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • Classes before June 2018 are not included.
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.

.Hire date / Pilots ahead of you
.year 2015 / 0
.year 2016 / 10
01-09-2017 / 24
01-23-2017 / 26
02-06-2017 / 28
02-21-2017 / 33
03-06-2017 / 40
03-20-2017 / 42
04-03-2017 / 45
04-17-2017 / 46
05-01-2017 / 48
05-15-2017 / 52
05-19-2017 / 57
06-05-2017 / 58
06-19-2017 / 75
07-10-2017 / 87
07-24-2017 / 106
08-07-2017 / 115
08-21-2017 / 124
09-05-2017 / 139
09-18-2017 / 151
10-02-2017 / 166
10-16-2017 / 181
10-30-2017 / 204
11-13-2017 / 220
11-27-2017 / 239
12-11-2017 / 259
01-08-2018 / 281
01-22-2018 / 301
02-12-2018 / 316
02-26-2018 / 334
03-12-2018 / 343
03-26-2018 / 353
04-09-2018 / 362
04-23-2018 / 372
05-07-2018 / 378
05-21-2018 / 392
06-04-2018 / 400
06-18-2018 / 407

"Classes after June 2018 are not included."

Thanks for putting this out again.

For anyone looking at upgrading on this, keep in mind that the downgraded captains should have reinstatement rights if I understand it properly.

ninerdriver 02-11-2021 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 3193940)
"Classes after June 2018 are not included."

This is why I'm not allowed to run things.


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 3193940)
For anyone looking at upgrading on this, keep in mind that the downgraded captains should have reinstatement rights if I understand it properly.

This is correct to a degree. It depends on how long ago the displacement happened. Most (all?) of the downgrades from 20-06 were from D2C, so those are probably the first FOs really lined up for those new positions anyway.

Casualinterest 02-11-2021 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3193987)
This is why I'm not allowed to run things.



This is correct to a degree. It depends on how long ago the displacement happened. Most (all?) of the downgrades from 20-06 were from D2C, so those are probably the first FOs really lined up for those new positions anyway.

All this civility and helpfulness floating around lately is freaking me out. #NotMyAPC

:-)

ninerdriver 03-08-2021 04:42 AM

21-01 final rev.0 update
 
  • These counts are based on the 2/10/2021 ISL and the 21-01 final award rev.0.
  • "Pilots ahead of you" means FOs ahead of you. It doesn't include people in your class.
  • PHTs are not included, because they don't impact available seats.
  • FOs hired before 2014 are not included. If you were hired before 2014 and are planning to upgrade... I had to draw a line somewhere. No offense intended.
  • Classes after June 2018 are not included.
  • I have no idea when any of these folks are going to upgrade. Want to speculate wildly? Be my guest. Please don't ask me.

.Hire date / Pilots ahead of you
.year 2015 / 0
.year 2016 / 9
01-09-2017 / 23
01-23-2017 / 25
02-06-2017 / 27
02-21-2017 / 32
03-06-2017 / 39
03-20-2017 / 41
04-03-2017 / 44
04-17-2017 / 45
05-01-2017 / 47
05-15-2017 / 51
05-19-2017 / 54
06-05-2017 / 55
06-19-2017 / 65
07-10-2017 / 77
07-24-2017 / 96
08-07-2017 / 105
08-21-2017 / 114
09-05-2017 / 129
09-18-2017 / 141
10-02-2017 / 156
10-16-2017 / 171
10-30-2017 / 194
11-13-2017 / 210
11-27-2017 / 229
12-11-2017 / 249
01-08-2018 / 271
01-22-2018 / 291
02-12-2018 / 306
02-26-2018 / 324
03-12-2018 / 333
03-26-2018 / 343
04-09-2018 / 352
04-23-2018 / 362
05-07-2018 / 368
05-21-2018 / 382
06-04-2018 / 390
06-18-2018 / 397

ninerdriver 03-11-2021 11:52 AM

21-02 update
 
This is more like it.

I'm not going to post a new list now. I'll post a fresh list after the 21-02 final.

FlyWhite 03-12-2021 08:07 AM

Curious if someone is savvy enough to adjust these number to take out FOs that made the move to the 900 and are seat locked?


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