This. And each union having an agenda is well within their right. But to say we are “all one” or “in solidarity” is bs. DALPA would screw us over the second they get. I get the scope implications but wouldn’t they want to see their “brothers and sisters” at Delta? Of course not!

I don’t think DALPA would screw you guys, in fact I believe Delta has to hire a certain percentage of ALPA pilots per some agreements with DALPA. I think we are making this more about Union vs Union here. The real fight is that Delta is dangling the flow carrot here to circumvent scope agreements with DALPA solely to get 35 RJs. Delta management can hire whoever they want, they could start a flow tmrw with 9E without flow down (but couldn’t get the RJs back). So you have to ask yourself as a 9E pilot why didn’t they institute a flow when the 76 seaters weren’t on the table?

That’s a pretty bold statement. There were many that have been hired at Delta, non flow, that left many shaking their heads in disbelief. There were also many that were turned down that a lot of us couldn’t understand. That being said, I’m not privy to how their interview went either.

Oh boohoo tell that to our service members who received the TBNT. Get over yourself.

Where the heck did that come from? All I’m saying is people slip through the cracks during the interview process as well. And some good people get missed. That’s all. I’m definitely not taking about myself here. But maybe you’re projecting here?

I’d rather you just join SkyWest. ALPA National has been pretty damn good to 9E, and we have a very good MEC. Let the process play out as it always has: As NJ said this will not be a concessionary contract and it will not shaft those of us who want to finish their career at 9E.

DL could fly those 35 RJ’s at mainline starting today if they wanted to...that’s what the DL mainline pilots (me) would prefer over letting DCI get them back...how’s that for career progression.

DL could start a flow up today as well...they hire who they hire when they want to hire them. I’m al for progression for EDV folks who are flying delta peeps every day...but that’s between you guys and DL Mgmt....us line pilots have zero say.

Flow down agreement tied to less scope....no-friggin way!

Same idiotic response from him.

If Endeavor thinks they’re getting a flow up without having flow down provisions, let me know when I can stop laughing. Flow isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Very short sighted IMO unless you’re un-hirable outside of a guaranteed seniority number. Don’t let the 10-15 year bitter RJ captains fool you.

Guaranteed seniority is nice, but if you’re close to DGI, you’re now passing up a few thousand seniority numbers to wait your turn behind everybody who has gone a few times, considering the pass rate was pretty decent right before it stopped, I’d probably prefer to just interview and trust my preparation, than wait it out and miss the hiring wave the next 12-18 months as airlines catch up.