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Old 06-17-2022, 03:43 PM
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Jim Jones was known for being the leader of the Peoples Temple, a cult that settled in Georgetown, Guyana. Jones told his followers he was the Messiah, the Savior. Jone’s followers believed he was God, listening to every word and following every command. The media and the FBI were onto Jones, making him paranoid and fearful of losing power.

On November 18th, 1978, Jim Jones told his followers to drink cyanide infused Kool-aid. His followers believed paradise awaited as they sipped the laced substance. Within minutes, their cells became deprived of oxygen, killing them. 918 people died believing they were being sent to paradise.

Prior to drinking the kool-aid, life at the compound was tough. Men were tasked with physical labor. Women are beaten, and forced to endure unspeakable acts. Meanwhile, the Messiah was enjoying his heroin, something that was considered a delicacy in the 1970s. Addiction to drugs and power drove Jones into madness.

A thought shared…

Does this story sound familiar? It should. Pilots are being forced into labor, sleeping on hotel floors. Approximately half the pilots on property are drinking the kool-aid, which is slowly depriving them of oxygen. Radical Russ is feeding his followers propaganda, promising them the holy grail of paradise, a spot at Delta Air Lines.

We need to help our fellow brothers and sisters see the light, and come to realization the paradise being promised does not exist.

Ask yourself, would you follow Jim Jones into the dark?
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Apples and Oranges.

If things aren't happening fast enough here leave. Many are and will. That's the vote that matters most - for those that go and those that stay.
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One advantage Endeavor will have is new hires. Envoy has already canceled almost all new hires that had class dates that were CFI’s (or no 121 experience). They were told that Envoy is using those classes to put thru DEC’s. Those new hires have not been given a replacement class date and will eventually jump ship to 9E. I personally know 4 that had already quit their CFI Jobs for class dates within 2-weeks (to 4-weeks) that no longer have a job nor a training class date.
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This guy has jumped the shark. Seriously. What are you talking about? Did they stop paying you guys over there? And no delta is not paradise, it just seems like it compared to endeavor. Believe me. I’ve worked at both.
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO View Post
One advantage Endeavor will have is new hires. Envoy has already canceled almost all new hires that had class dates that were CFI’s (or no 121 experience). They were told that Envoy is using those classes to put thru DEC’s. Those new hires have not been given a replacement class date and will eventually jump ship to 9E. I personally know 4 that had already quit their CFI Jobs for class dates within 2-weeks (to 4-weeks) that no longer have a job nor a training class date.
9E can get all the fresh new CFIs it wants, it won't matter when there are no captains left to fly with them!
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9E can get all the fresh new CFIs it wants, it won't matter when there are no captains left to fly with them!
They’ll have a fresh stream of propel kids don’t worry. When I fly with a new FO, I ask about their background. I show interest in propel. If I find out they are apart of propel, I do not let them touch the controls. I’ll remain PF each leg.
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Old 06-18-2022, 01:10 PM
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It was flavor aid
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Old 06-18-2022, 06:01 PM
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They’ll have a fresh stream of propel kids don’t worry. When I fly with a new FO, I ask about their background. I show interest in propel. If I find out they are apart of propel, I do not let them touch the controls. I’ll remain PF each leg.
What a joy to fly with!! You sound like a lifer who gets to foist all of their career disappointments on unsuspecting new hires.
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It was flavor aid
Folks committing suicide and they could not even afford the good stuff?
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Jim Jones was known for being the leader of the Peoples Temple, a cult that settled in Georgetown, Guyana. Jones told his followers he was the Messiah, the Savior. Jone’s followers believed he was God, listening to every word and following every command. The media and the FBI were onto Jones, making him paranoid and fearful of losing power.

On November 18th, 1978, Jim Jones told his followers to drink cyanide infused Kool-aid. His followers believed paradise awaited as they sipped the laced substance. Within minutes, their cells became deprived of oxygen, killing them. 918 people died believing they were being sent to paradise.

Prior to drinking the kool-aid, life at the compound was tough. Men were tasked with physical labor. Women are beaten, and forced to endure unspeakable acts. Meanwhile, the Messiah was enjoying his heroin, something that was considered a delicacy in the 1970s. Addiction to drugs and power drove Jones into madness.

A thought shared…

Does this story sound familiar? It should. Pilots are being forced into labor, sleeping on hotel floors. Approximately half the pilots on property are drinking the kool-aid, which is slowly depriving them of oxygen. Radical Russ is feeding his followers propaganda, promising them the holy grail of paradise, a spot at Delta Air Lines.

We need to help our fellow brothers and sisters see the light, and come to realization the paradise being promised does not exist.

Ask yourself, would you follow Jim Jones into the dark?
Dude, get some help.
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