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Old 07-22-2022, 04:06 PM
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And why on earth would DALPA agree to anything like that before they have a new contract?
Delta doesn’t need DALPA’s permission to give more cash retention or higher pay rates to 9E . Albeit it wouldn’t make mainline Union too happy , but just like they didn’t need an agreement with DALPA to do the initial retention. They do need DALPA agreement to do seniority or any kind of merge . But if Delta wanted to pay us AA WO rates they could without DALPA .
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Yawn... 2,000 on the seniority list.

Nothing to see here unless we see 200+ net loss per month. 80% of Captains voted with their wallet and are staying for the flow.
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Old 07-23-2022, 07:36 AM
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At least NJ and JL are meeting on the 28th. So we shall see.
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Meeting about what? Does DALPA know about this?
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup View Post
80% of Captains voted with their wallet and are staying for the flow.
Electing the bonus certainly isn't the same as staying for the flow.
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup View Post
Yawn... 2,000 on the seniority list.

Nothing to see here unless we see 200+ net loss per month. 80% of Captains voted with their wallet and are staying for the flow.
How many took the bonus and are leaving anyway?
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:52 AM
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Electing the bonus certainly isn't the same as staying for the flow.
Plus how many “lifers” who by-passed flow took the bonus. They were staying anyway, the bonus only put money in the pockets of those who were staying anyway, more or less. Not that there’s anything wrong with that
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:49 AM
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How many took the bonus and are leaving anyway?
Captain attrition hasn't changed, so I'd imagine the answer is several.
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
Plus how many “lifers” who by-passed flow took the bonus. They were staying anyway, the bonus only put money in the pockets of those who were staying anyway, more or less. Not that there’s anything wrong with that
The only pilots that the bonus doesn't help are those who are on the fence, collect the bonus, and then spend it. Otherwise, it's free money for lifers and captains flowing soon, and it's a nice insurance policy if things go to hell again and the hiring circus stops. Just don't spend it right away.
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Meeting about what? Does DALPA know about this?
um, yea . They are gonna be there too.
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The only pilots that the bonus doesn't help are those who are on the fence, collect the bonus, and then spend it. Otherwise, it's free money for lifers and captains flowing soon, and it's a nice insurance policy if things go to hell again and the hiring circus stops. Just don't spend it right away.
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