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three1five 07-16-2023 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3664320)

The point I’m making is there’s zero competition, the customers base is filthy rich, and the only sacrifice to removing 20 seats is giving up more profits. There’s no questions about making money flying a 50 seat 175 to Aspen, zero.

As the guy mentioned who you responded to SkyWest doesn’t have an option when the RJ700’s are retired so a 50 seat 175 may be the ONLY option. They will absolutely make a shlt ton of $ flying 50 seat 175’s, just not as much as with the 700’s.

But to have enough 50 seat 175s in the fleet to be able to reliably serve ASE for all carriers… so that when one goes down for mx they aren’t canceling half the ASE flights for 3 days… can they also make money flying a 50 seat 175 on DEN ABQ or SLC PSC? Or my favorite… LAX SBA

LAXtoDEN 07-16-2023 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by three1five (Post 3667391)
But to have enough 50 seat 175s in the fleet to be able to reliably serve ASE for all carriers… so that when one goes down for mx they aren’t canceling half the ASE flights for 3 days… can they also make money flying a 50 seat 175 on DEN ABQ or SLC PSC? Or my favorite… LAX SBA

It’s easy to get creative. Sell it as a 550 concept but better. 50 seats half first class half comfort plus or whatever. Obviously designed for the high class customer, but ASE is not the only high class route, JAC comes to mind.

But yes absolutely they would require more than a few 50 seat 175’s. Do the economic’s make sense compared to flying your regularl scheduled 70-76 flight to something-ville USA, idk.

LizzyBorden 07-17-2023 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3667399)
It’s easy to get creative. Sell it as a 550 concept but better. 50 seats half first class half comfort plus or whatever. Obviously designed for the high class customer, but ASE is not the only high class route, JAC comes to mind.

But yes absolutely they would require more than a few 50 seat 175’s. Do the economic’s make sense compared to flying your regularl scheduled 70-76 flight to something-ville USA, idk.

There are 13 year old kids on airliners.net that have a better grasp and understanding of the airline business than you do.

LAXtoDEN 07-17-2023 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by LizzyBorden (Post 3667560)
There are 13 year old kids on airliners.net that have a better grasp and understanding of the airline business than you do.

Buddy your entire shtick is tossing out a few one liners but you have no idea what you’re talking about, EVER. You’re just a massive pretender.

I’ve been waiting for you to “school” me with information for the last few days now. You don’t have anything, you’re that moron in class who just thinks they’re really smart until they actually have to explain their reasoning.

LizzyBorden 07-17-2023 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3667568)
Buddy your entire shtick is tossing out a few one liners but you have no idea what you’re talking about, EVER.

I’ve been waiting for you to “school” me with information for the last few days now. You don’t have anything, you’re that moron in class who just thinks he’s really smart until someone asks if he can explain his reasoning.

You cannot even answer a simple question that I posed to you days ago...were you ASE qualified at your days in OO?

Your insecurities are showing on a massive level on how you are approaching this by the way.

RippinClapBombs 07-17-2023 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by LizzyBorden (Post 3667569)
You cannot even answer a simple question that I posed to you days ago...were you ASE qualified at your days in OO

I was ASE qualified as an FO. I also was qualified to fly the E175 into SUN, JAC, and OTH. More importantly I had the opportunity to fly with some great LCA’s who were part of the ASE E175 test program.

I did not pull 50 seats in a 175 out of thin air. I’m not employed at SkyWest. I have no recent insider knowledge on how the program is progressing.

LAXtoDEN 07-17-2023 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by LizzyBorden (Post 3667569)
You cannot even answer a simple question that I posed to you days ago...were you ASE qualified at your days in OO?

I was on the ERJ out of ORD. I have close friends who did the 700 aspen flying out of ORD. Most are gone from OO, but what does being ASE qualified on a 700 have to do with the 175 getting approved into aspen?

LizzyBorden 07-17-2023 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3667577)
I was ASE qualified as an FO. I also was qualified to fly the E175 into SUN, JAC, and OTH. More importantly I had the opportunity to fly with some great LCA’s who were part of the ASE E175 test program.

I did not pull 50 seats in a 175 out of thin air. I’m not employed at SkyWest. I have no recent insider knowledge on how the program is progressing.


I know the 50 seat discussion didn't come out of thin air, as ASE has been spit balled with ideas for years on what to do. The Q400 experiment with Republic was a perfect example of that...

LizzyBorden 07-17-2023 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3667578)
I was on the ERJ out of ORD. I have close friends who did the 700 aspen flying out of ORD. Most are gone from OO, but what does being ASE qualified on a 700 have to do with the 175 getting approved into aspen?


Has everything to do with understanding the market, the operation, and the the nuts and bolts of how ASE works. Without first hand knowledge and experience, you are talking out of your rectum.

ASE has a capacity problem. Seat inventory and operational capacity. Contrary to popular belief, ticket yields in ASE are no higher than most, so the idea they are rolling around in money over ASE is false. Its the demand and the high profile clientele that makes it such a big deal. Shrinking seat capacity, along with putting in an airplane that will take up more room on the ground is not the direction anyone wants to go.

Also, you said there is no competition in ASE? What a dumb statement this is. Of course there is....United, Delta and American are all in competition in ASE.

cornerpocket 07-17-2023 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3667578)
what does being ASE qualified on a 700 have to do with the 175 getting approved into aspen?

Clearly you're not allowed to discuss the topic if you've never been ASE qual'd :rolleyes:


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