It is not coming out of your take home pay, it is coming out of your per diem. Two seperate things.

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Someone explain to me how we will all have jobs at Delta within 5 years. I missed the conference call.

First year's pay is a struggle. Per diem barely covers food if you don't pack a cooler. Also tell that to the FA's making $17 an hour. I'm just saying we shouldn't be expected to "give away" money. I'm not criticizing people who tip, just the expectation of one.

Why not tip the cashier at the supermarket, or the drive thru people at McDonalds or the FO on your flight? What determines who gets a tip and who doesn't? I'm just tired of subsidizing specific people's salary while their bosses who can afford it don't.

Back on topic though. Stop bashing each other. The SLI is what it is and they are never going to please everyone. To take that out on each other is illogical since no one here had a say in it. Fly safe and move on when you can.

And by that logic if people stop taking regional airline pilot jobs we'd have wages good enough to provide more than a mud hut somewhere down in the dumbest section of the southeast. Also you'd probably be less inclined to dream up "the way things ought to be" and just let go of $2/day for van drivers. That $40/night your company pays the hotel isn't paying for anything besides the worst room next to the elevator.

Welcome to reality. If you don't want to tip that's your call, but there's no excuse not to tip someone that is working for them. Visit a country where tipping is not customary like Japan. You pay more for a service/product because they're paid more. You can't have it both ways.

A tip is earned, it never should be expected.

If you want to go away from many years of airline tradition, yes.

Otherwise, tip your van driver.

Tradition? When will that apply to our pay?

I haven't been doing this for that long but long enough to know that you guys who don't tip the van drivers are the ones who get all prissy when they aren't there IMMEDIATELY when you walk outside, ***** and moan about your pay and how you are broke for four days straight, and are constantly talking about how you need to be paid more.

Karma is a powerful thing. Maybe if you tip the van driver properly, karma will find its way to you and you can start getting more in your W-2s.

Yeah Karma will pay the bills.
I haven't been doing this long either but enough to know that everyone complains when the van isn't there when it's supposed to. See I can make general statements too. It's their job to be there. That's like me expecting a tip from the passengers for providing safe on-time service. Please explain the difference.
BTW I always tip when I have change and never complain. Just don't think I should feel guilty not tipping.

If Karma is going to increase my pay I should hand out dollar bills to every person I see on a street corner looking for a hand out.

I tip 95% of the time. But if they are texting or talking on a cell phone and driving me no dollar, if they just sit in the van and I load my own bags no dollar. They pretty much can do anything else and they get the token dollar.