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mooney 06-07-2013 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1423905)
Don't you just love it when a "legacy airline" pilot chimes in on a regional forum to preach his words of wisdom?


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423918)
paxhauler doesnt fly for mainline.


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423938)

However, a quick search of paxhauler's history shows he is a CPZ guy. It's not that difficult.



OMG 80 please tell me you did not just tell a Compass pilot he was not mainline!!!!!!!!!!! You tryin to start a jumpseat war or something????

paxhauler85 06-07-2013 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1423920)
Sure he / she does. Got a 747 on the avatar!

I do that to screw with Delta mainline guys. I'm sure there's a few of them whose blood pressure ticks up a few points when they see it.

My only point in my previous comment was this: for an airline that so many people have preconceived notions about (founded or not), aggressively talking about and taking extreme stances on something as simple as tipping might give mainline guys pause as to whether or not a trip with you would be enjoyable. Personally, I would worry that you would spend all 4 days treating van drivers and wait staff poorly, which would make for unconformable meals and van rides.

Mooney - I didn't come to CPZ because I'm a NWA/Delta blowhard (I'm actually quite the opposite) nor do I (or anyone I can think of) think we're mainline pilots. Far from it. I needed a job after airline #1 failed on me, and CPZ was exactly that. No jumpseat war needed, even though the Delta guys refuse to reciprocate our F/A jumpseat agreement with them - leading to the end of that program on our end.

MrMustache 06-07-2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1424095)
OMG 80 please tell me you did not just tell a Compass pilot he was not mainline!!!!!!!!!!! You tryin to start a jumpseat war or something????

Pretty sure the 9E dingleberries on the line are the ones who think their mainline nowadays, because their " the chosen ones".:rolleyes:

ShyGuy 06-07-2013 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1424131)
Pretty sure the 9E dingleberries on the line are the ones who think their mainline nowadays, because their " the chosen ones".:rolleyes:

Haha a self-hatin' 9E pilot

ShyGuy 06-07-2013 08:22 AM


Water under the bridge. It's not like you could get in trouble at this point anyway. Just make sure you have your facts straight before you go bashing other pilot groups for an arbitrated decision and then backpedal using fatal accidents as some sort of heinous barometer that says they are worse than someone else.
As already stated, I have never landed flaps 0. No one would do that "just because." Obviously it has to be an abnormal/flaps fail situation to land at flaps 0. I don't know how it is now, but when I was at 9E, in the flaps 0 profile, the very last portion of the profile was at 60 kts "CA - I have control. FO - You have control. If FO landing" So that shows that it is ok in an abnormal situation for a FO to land at flaps 0, and not just a Captain-only landing. But again, I never landed flaps 0. Just make sure you know the profile before you bash someone for something they never did to begin with.

"fatal accidents as some sort of heinous barometer that says they are worse than someone else"

No, what I said was nearly all of those regional airlines cease to exist after a fatal passenger death crash. Regions/Corporate Air, Air Midwest, Colgan, Chalks Ocean Airways. There is no denying that after the Colgan crash, the Colgan name had to go. Ocean Chalk airways was the oldest airline among the regionals to be in service but once the fatal crash happened in 2005, that airline was done for and shut down. It's not a matter of being worse than someone else, it's just looking at past history to see what happens to regional airlines when they have a big fatal passenger crash. Either the name disappears/changes, or the airline itself ceases to exist. This *fact* should have been accounted for in "career expectations." But anyway, like you said, what's done is done and is all water under the bridge.

80ktsClamp 06-07-2013 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1424095)
OMG 80 please tell me you did not just tell a Compass pilot he was not mainline!!!!!!!!!!! You tryin to start a jumpseat war or something????

When has any CPZ pilot tried to argue that they are mainline? I sure haven't met any that have done so.

The jackets they wear are one breast below mainline. ;)

80ktsClamp 06-07-2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by mrmustache (Post 1424131)
pretty sure the 9e dingleberries on the line are the ones who think their mainline nowadays, because their " the chosen ones".:rolleyes:

they're** ;)

Mesabah 06-07-2013 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1424336)
The jackets they wear are one breast below mainline. ;)

Our new uniforms appear to be double breasted.

http://i40.tinypic.com/mbu4g8.jpg

BIGRIG 06-07-2013 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1424124)
I do that to screw with Delta mainline guys. I'm sure there's a few of them whose blood pressure ticks up a few points when they see it.

My only point in my previous comment was this: for an airline that so many people have preconceived notions about (founded or not), aggressively talking about and taking extreme stances on something as simple as tipping might give mainline guys pause as to whether or not a trip with you would be enjoyable. Personally, I would worry that you would spend all 4 days treating van drivers and wait staff poorly, which would make for unconformable meals and van rides.

Cute coming from the former Mesa guy.

MrMustache 06-07-2013 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1424339)
they're** ;)

I know, I realized that after I could edit it. Still true though :)


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