Warning about Endeavor to Delta (ETD)

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08-19-2014 | 07:46 PM
  #141  
Quote: They would be able to weed them out in training. There are tools but I think you guys over exaggerate how many bad apples there are. Or I am just lucky to be MSP based.
Our training is quite laid back at DL and very gentlemanly. The typical pass rate is around 99%. Nothing is a wild card like at 9E in that everything is scripted. The oral (which is now all computer based) is only allowed to ask specific learning objective areas. The objective is promoting learning not a self serving checking environment.

There are a couple crazies that made it through the SSP who may have a tough time getting through probation if they don't watch it, though.

A flow isn't going to happen.
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08-19-2014 | 07:47 PM
  #142  
Quote: I agree that they should be able to weed them out in training. There are a bunch that unfortunately spoil it for many. If you were ever Memphis based you might have a different opinion, but maybe it's just me
One word could solve the whole bad apples problem
PROBATION

Edit: ha beat me to it 80
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08-19-2014 | 09:21 PM
  #143  
The SSP is definitely not weeding out the cray-cray. From what I've seen, it's preparation, and past employment record. The application, and interview give you a combined score that has to meet a minimum level.
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08-19-2014 | 11:44 PM
  #144  
Quote: The SSP is definitely not weeding out the cray-cray. From what I've seen, it's preparation, and past employment record. The application, and interview give you a combined score that has to meet a minimum level.
Exactly, anyone can fool an interview panel for an hour. If they wanted to weed out the bad apples they aren't going about it right. Scoring lower in the point system because you took an extra year to get your degree says nothing about how enjoyable you might be in a cockpit for 8 hours.
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08-20-2014 | 12:07 AM
  #145  
Quote: The SSP is definitely not weeding out the cray-cray. From what I've seen, it's preparation, and past employment record. The application, and interview give you a combined score that has to meet a minimum level.
From what I've seen, they are detecting most of the crazies, at least from the original 9E side. There will be a few that get by, of course.
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08-20-2014 | 03:44 AM
  #146  
I am half surprised that a flow isn't desirable because if someone is truly a safety concern or a "crazy" a flow would mean;

1. No longer PIC of Delta pax, but an SIC and

2. back on probation where they can shape up or ship out.

I don't relish good people losing their jobs, but if a pilot is a bona fide concern and basically it is just the union protecting their job, maybe being an FO on probation isn't such a bad thing. ???
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08-20-2014 | 06:46 AM
  #147  
Quote: I am half surprised that a flow isn't desirable because if someone is truly a safety concern or a "crazy" a flow would mean;

1. No longer PIC of Delta pax, but an SIC and

2. back on probation where they can shape up or ship out.

I don't relish good people losing their jobs, but if a pilot is a bona fide concern and basically it is just the union protecting their job, maybe being an FO on probation isn't such a bad thing. ???
There is no need for a flow, when 9E shuts down next year, they can take whomever they want to Delta.
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08-20-2014 | 07:39 AM
  #148  
Quote: There is no need for a flow, when 9E shuts down next year, they can take whomever they want to Delta.
Who will fly Delta's feeder routes?
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08-20-2014 | 07:58 AM
  #149  
Quote: Who will fly Delta's feeder routes?
The goal would be Delta.
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08-20-2014 | 08:27 AM
  #150  
Quote: The goal would be Delta.
Using the 717s or the CRJ 900s or both?
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